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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids liked it, but we went twice and I can't imagine going any more than that.

They were 4, 6, and 8 the first time we went, and that was perfect.

Then 9, 11, and 13. The upside was that they wanted to ride every ride at that age. But that "magic" with characters is best with little kids.

I think it's great to go to Disney once. There are just sooooo many other places to see!

Adding to my previous post ... the first time, the food was pretty good. We had a couple of excellent sit-down dinners, and the quick-service food was fine.

The second time, the food was NOT good at all. We had one decent meal in the Mexico section of Epcot and one at AK Lodge. Everything else was bad.

food was a real disappointment. I didn’t do a lot of planning (didn’t want to be locked into reservations) and the stuff we got on the fly at quick serve or carts was just gross.

Anonymous wrote:My kids liked it, but we went twice and I can't imagine going any more than that.

They were 4, 6, and 8 the first time we went, and that was perfect.

Then 9, 11, and 13. The upside was that they wanted to ride every ride at that age. But that "magic" with characters is best with little kids.

I think it's great to go to Disney once. There are just sooooo many other places to see!

Adding to my previous post ... the first time, the food was pretty good. We had a couple of excellent sit-down dinners, and the quick-service food was fine.

The second time, the food was NOT good at all. We had one decent meal in the Mexico section of Epcot and one at AK Lodge. Everything else was bad.

We had a good time. The one bad moment was leaving Magic Kingdom. We had to wait to board a boat and it felt like we were cattle. Completely disorganized, hot, all the little kids were crying and there was almost a fight between two familes. That was not magic at all!

Anonymous wrote:On what planet would waiting in lines for hours and spending $200 per day on crappy lunches for your family be fun? And for thousands of dollars? The appeal of Disney World is just something I'll never wrap my brain around. Might as well travel abroad and expose your kids to different cultures and get way better food, and all for a similar price as Disney.

You don’t really wait all say. With Genie+ you wait like 20 minutes and it goes by fast because of the anticipation and the pre-ride features. Food isn’t great, I’ll give you that. But if you don’t enjoy rides and theming then sure, not for you. It’s ultimately for your kids anyway, who, while they may be enriched by foreign travel, would usually have more fun at Disney.

We definitely had moments we didn’t have fun - overstimulated, no where to sit, claustrophobia attacks (me!) - but overall it was very fun. If it had been hotter or my kid less regulated it would have been terrible. But he surprised me with how much he loved the rides and also all the animatronics (even Hall of Presidents) so we had a great time. A few of the rides really legitimately knocked my socks off too (Soarin’, Thunder Mountain at night) - but if I hated rides it probably would have been not fun at all.

On what planet would waiting in lines for hours and spending $200 per day on crappy lunches for your family be fun? And for thousands of dollars? The appeal of Disney World is just something I'll never wrap my brain around. Might as well travel abroad and expose your kids to different cultures and get way better food, and all for a similar price as Disney.

Anonymous wrote:Disney is not fun anymore at all. You have to schedule all meals in advance, or eat extremely crappy fast food options, you have to schedule all rides in advance or wait in line for an hour, everything is super expensive, everything costs extra money, everything seems slightly worn down and it's much hotter than it was when I was a child. Save your money and go anyplace else.

This is how my family feels. I can't justify the cost and the time spent standing in line. If I had the money to do the VIP skip the line service, I would, but barring that, no thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

My kid enjoyed it at 3.5. I hated it lol.
But she asks to go back to Dutch Wonderland year after year not Disney. IMO Disney is a waste of money and time but it seems to be something people like to say they’ve done.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

Exactly and when they are told they can get Genie+ instead of DAS if they no longer qualify they are like "but then I won't be able to ride as many rides!" Just like the rest of us. It's beyond an accessibility issue, they are having a much better experience at the expense of all the other visitors, and they know this which is why they are so upset.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

Anonymous wrote:Disneyland had lines from hell. Nope, hate hate hate lines. For a full day we got maybe 4-5 rides with massive lines.

This is not fun. Do they place a cap of number of people allowed at one time? They must, but whatever it is, the number is too high for me.

You're doing it wrong. Get Genie+ and you can do ride after ride. We can probably do 15-20 in a day. Also stay on property. In the 30 mins of early entry we did all of Fantasyland (except Peter Pan). The people having a good time know what they are doing. There are tons of tips out there.

The lines are awful, you have to coordinate tons of stuff on your smartphone while you are there versus being in the real world, a pretend world and not the real world, it’s full of OBESE people and weirdos.
We took the kids to Disney a couple of times and they were happy to go but have no interest in going back. Long lines, horrendous heat, packed to the gills with crowds upon crowds. Just too much.
We have taken them to Greece, the pyramids, Mexico, all over the US, national parks, islands and more. They can see the difference between actual Venice and fake Venice.