Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 22:47     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people need drugs to lose weight? It's pretty simple math.


No it's not.

As a 62 year old female who is only 4' 10" with genetics like crazy for diabetes losing weight is not just not eating and exercise.
That does not move the needle.

I just tried metformin it made me very sick so I stopped. But I am 40 lbs over weight and i have tried everything nothing works. It sucks. I know others are struggling way more than 40 lbs so I should not complain.

My doctor would not prescribe ozempric and I am miserable.





Use one of the online services that work with insurance: The doctors there only consult for this and will give you a prescription because you so clearly qualify!


Do you have any names of reputable online services?


Several:

Join Fridays
Mochi Health
IVIM
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 21:45     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people need drugs to lose weight? It's pretty simple math.


No it's not.

As a 62 year old female who is only 4' 10" with genetics like crazy for diabetes losing weight is not just not eating and exercise.
That does not move the needle.

I just tried metformin it made me very sick so I stopped. But I am 40 lbs over weight and i have tried everything nothing works. It sucks. I know others are struggling way more than 40 lbs so I should not complain.

My doctor would not prescribe ozempric and I am miserable.





Use one of the online services that work with insurance: The doctors there only consult for this and will give you a prescription because you so clearly qualify!


Do you have any names of reputable online services?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 19:31     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food habits are a large cause of obesity. They are developed young. It’s pretty rare to see skinny kids with obese parents stay that way into adulthood.


I was the largest in my family, and I didn’t pick up bad habits from my parents. My mom always cooked from scratch, as do I. Most of the people in my family are of normal weight, except me. I have dieted my entire life, and the only way I lost weight was when I ate much less than the recommended amount. In college, I would work out for 3 hours/day and eat only rice — this got me down to about 125 lbs, but I quickly gained everything back when I eased up a bit (3 hour daily workouts are not sustainable in the long-term, nor is eating just rice.). An MD at Inova’s weight loss clinic suggested I eat 1200 calories/day, but that was not helping me lose weight — I needed to eat about 1000 calories/day, which is really hard to do when you rely solely on “willpower”. These WL meds help me to do that, plain and simple.


If this was a thing, we would have controlled studies showing this phenomenon for thousands of subjects at a minimum. But it’s not because it defies the laws of physics. That’s just the reality of 1000 calories a day. Unless you are 4 feet tall, and even then, it’s still starvation for any long term.

There are lots of factors to weight, but at the very core of it is the simple math of over consuming energy requirements. All the rest is stuff at the edges, but it’s not the kernel of why.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:28     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:Rice is just carbs. Why would you think that would help you lose weight?


NP I lost 40 lbs in a couple of months once while eating mostly just rice, bananas and occasionally some other stuff but nothing bad for me. I was going through some stress that completely took away my appetite and I barely even wanted to eat the rice. I kept that weight off for awhile but it eventually came back. I have never had that experience of completely losing my appetite and interest in food before or since then. I wish I knew how to make it happen.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:26     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:Are there obese people that don’t think that addiction is a disease? My entire family is obese. I don’t have food issues but I’m an alcoholic. Speaking of which, when is coming for alcoholics? If you think the noise is bad from food, try alcohol noise. I’ve seen wild studies on how well it works for drug and alcohol addiction.


I am taking compounded Wegovy for weight loss but the impact it has had on my drinking is wild. I have zero interest. I was a pretty heavy drinker and now I don't at all. This alone is a great reason for me to stay on it.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:25     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rice is just carbs. Why would you think that would help you lose weight?


NP but a lot of us did that back then. Remember when fat-free everything was all the rage?

I lived on plain baked potatoes and veggie subs with mustard from Subway. I thought that was the way to be healthy.


I did boiled chicken with mustard. It really did work well. I also ate as many vegetables as I wanted (raw or steamed)
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:24     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people need drugs to lose weight? It's pretty simple math.


Why does someone with OCD wash her hands or check the locks 50 times a day? It’s simple not to.


Why don't alcoholics just stop drinking? It's simple to put the glass down.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:24     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Are there obese people that don’t think that addiction is a disease? My entire family is obese. I don’t have food issues but I’m an alcoholic. Speaking of which, when is coming for alcoholics? If you think the noise is bad from food, try alcohol noise. I’ve seen wild studies on how well it works for drug and alcohol addiction.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:23     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:I could draw up from a vial. Is that an option? I did IVF


Yes, but the company won't sell it in a vial. They insist on the stupid injectors that are hard to manufacture. This is a solvable problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:23     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:Rice is just carbs. Why would you think that would help you lose weight?


NP but a lot of us did that back then. Remember when fat-free everything was all the rage?

I lived on plain baked potatoes and veggie subs with mustard from Subway. I thought that was the way to be healthy.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:21     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

I could draw up from a vial. Is that an option? I did IVF
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 18:18     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Rice is just carbs. Why would you think that would help you lose weight?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 17:01     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:Food habits are a large cause of obesity. They are developed young. It’s pretty rare to see skinny kids with obese parents stay that way into adulthood.


I was the largest in my family, and I didn’t pick up bad habits from my parents. My mom always cooked from scratch, as do I. Most of the people in my family are of normal weight, except me. I have dieted my entire life, and the only way I lost weight was when I ate much less than the recommended amount. In college, I would work out for 3 hours/day and eat only rice — this got me down to about 125 lbs, but I quickly gained everything back when I eased up a bit (3 hour daily workouts are not sustainable in the long-term, nor is eating just rice.). An MD at Inova’s weight loss clinic suggested I eat 1200 calories/day, but that was not helping me lose weight — I needed to eat about 1000 calories/day, which is really hard to do when you rely solely on “willpower”. These WL meds help me to do that, plain and simple.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 16:42     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people need drugs to lose weight? It's pretty simple math.


Tell that to the two-thirds of Americans who are overweight or obese. I guess they're all bad at math.


They are overweight or obese because they are consuming too many calories. There are exceptions to this of course like medications causing weight gain.

Cut the calories and lose the weight. Most people don’t have the willpower to do this.


Willpower is a bit of a myth. Everyone is not equal when it comes to food, appetite, cravings, hormones...So what is a level 2/10 difficulty for you is a 10/10 difficulty for another person. You don't get a pat on the back because you have it easier. All the drugs do is put that person at the same level as you.


Have it then. Until there is a generic, you get to fund the drug use somehow. Whether that’s insurance or otherwise. Innovation isn’t free. That’s life in the big city.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 13:55     Subject: The “Shortage” of weight loss drugs is created to keep demand high. Nothing else.

Food habits are a large cause of obesity. They are developed young. It’s pretty rare to see skinny kids with obese parents stay that way into adulthood.