Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 16:02     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

But why are there no book recommendations? I've done 50 Shades of Gray. What's next?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 15:59     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m ^^ and why would you be embarrassed? We have bodies and desires. I also read both 2023 Pulitzer Prize winners. We can be multifaceted.


I've been thinking about your question. Embarrassment is maybe not the right word. dislike? discomfort? disdain?

i think it is a combination of:
1-book snobbery. this has been the main identity that has stayed constant for me all my life. my closest friends, spouse, child name etc all came to me via my love of books. beside my bed, i have two piles of books. the books i want to read and the ones i actually am reading. suddenly, i feel like the coffee gourmand who is hooked on instant. If, like you, i was reading both types of books, I would just accept this as one of my tastes. But it is the only taste I have these days. Bleh.
2-my other great love is for self-pity. i feel like i am obsessing over the one thing I don't have. i've been so fortunate in so many areas of my life, fixating on this aspect of life feels like a determination to be unhappy. It's a little horrifying to me, to imagine this as anything but a temporary hormonal phase i am going through. Because i will never stop picking at that hurt.
3-like any other 40 something mom, i am crucified by work/child raising/domestic drudgery. spending the little bit of disposable time and attention that i do have, on emotional junk food (for me, anyway) results in me spending the rest of my day brooding on rubbish instead of say, poetry.

Am not judging anyone else. Obviously.

Thanks for responding everyone! And please keep the recommendations coming.


I'm pp and you're being really hard on yourself. I get it because I judge myself too harshly too, but I'm getting to the point where I'm finally trying to be me. I've always been a romantic at heart, and it sounds like you, I've always lived in my head. I, too, thought literary fiction was the only way. But, then I admitted to myself I didn't get much joy from it. I like more plot driven books, and that's what I want to read. I like to think there are seasons in my life, and that's okay. I can change my mind at any point. It helps for me to tell myself the truth: honestly I probably am never going to really like or read poetry. But, that doesn't mean anything about me except that I don't like that genre.

Midlife is very hard and that emotional junk food, i.e. self care is the path forward. Perimenopause, work, the sandwich generation takes it's toll. I've been so irritable for six months that I've hunkered down and just read and watched junk TV. Let's not forget the state of the world too. We just agreed in our book group (where I read one of the Pulitizers) that we will only read easy peasy, nothing too emotional or hard this fall because nobody can handle it rn.

So, give yourself a break and let's just focus on which smutty books we love most!


50 and I feel like I am going to jump out of my skin with anxiety over the state of the world. I wake up at 4am and put on NPR and my gd, it's just one horrible thing after another. Waiting for November - and fearing what might happen - has me in a permanent state of brain fuzz.

I can't imagine I am alone in this. (Though wouldn't that be great if no one else were feeling this way.) If sh**ty tv and terrible books help us get through the day, there's worse ways to cope.


My mom had a stress heart attack from watching the news all the time. I'm not saying check out and be uninformed, but you don't have to wake up and put on NPR (or any news) and in fact I think you shouldn't. Listen to something fun or relaxing.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 15:57     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Can't relate - I've loved romance for decades.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 14:52     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m ^^ and why would you be embarrassed? We have bodies and desires. I also read both 2023 Pulitzer Prize winners. We can be multifaceted.


I've been thinking about your question. Embarrassment is maybe not the right word. dislike? discomfort? disdain?

i think it is a combination of:
1-book snobbery. this has been the main identity that has stayed constant for me all my life. my closest friends, spouse, child name etc all came to me via my love of books. beside my bed, i have two piles of books. the books i want to read and the ones i actually am reading. suddenly, i feel like the coffee gourmand who is hooked on instant. If, like you, i was reading both types of books, I would just accept this as one of my tastes. But it is the only taste I have these days. Bleh.
2-my other great love is for self-pity. i feel like i am obsessing over the one thing I don't have. i've been so fortunate in so many areas of my life, fixating on this aspect of life feels like a determination to be unhappy. It's a little horrifying to me, to imagine this as anything but a temporary hormonal phase i am going through. Because i will never stop picking at that hurt.
3-like any other 40 something mom, i am crucified by work/child raising/domestic drudgery. spending the little bit of disposable time and attention that i do have, on emotional junk food (for me, anyway) results in me spending the rest of my day brooding on rubbish instead of say, poetry.

Am not judging anyone else. Obviously.

Thanks for responding everyone! And please keep the recommendations coming.


I'm pp and you're being really hard on yourself. I get it because I judge myself too harshly too, but I'm getting to the point where I'm finally trying to be me. I've always been a romantic at heart, and it sounds like you, I've always lived in my head. I, too, thought literary fiction was the only way. But, then I admitted to myself I didn't get much joy from it. I like more plot driven books, and that's what I want to read. I like to think there are seasons in my life, and that's okay. I can change my mind at any point. It helps for me to tell myself the truth: honestly I probably am never going to really like or read poetry. But, that doesn't mean anything about me except that I don't like that genre.

Midlife is very hard and that emotional junk food, i.e. self care is the path forward. Perimenopause, work, the sandwich generation takes it's toll. I've been so irritable for six months that I've hunkered down and just read and watched junk TV. Let's not forget the state of the world too. We just agreed in our book group (where I read one of the Pulitizers) that we will only read easy peasy, nothing too emotional or hard this fall because nobody can handle it rn.

So, give yourself a break and let's just focus on which smutty books we love most!


50 and I feel like I am going to jump out of my skin with anxiety over the state of the world. I wake up at 4am and put on NPR and my gd, it's just one horrible thing after another. Waiting for November - and fearing what might happen - has me in a permanent state of brain fuzz.

I can't imagine I am alone in this. (Though wouldn't that be great if no one else were feeling this way.) If sh**ty tv and terrible books help us get through the day, there's worse ways to cope.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 14:47     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:I mean, I’m just here for book and smut recommendations! - 40year old mom


Same - how dare you start this thread and then not offer us any examples and suggestions!
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 14:41     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where to post this, so apologies if this belongs in the relationships forum... I would just like to talk this out with some middle aged women.

I am female, 47, married (technically), professional, have one child who is reasonably independent (finally, thank God).....I expected to be settling into some lovely sedate middle act now pass? When?

My objections are that it is so undignified me.


Oooh can you give me book recommendations please?


The Story of O

The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty & books (written by Anne Rice under pen name)
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 14:08     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure where to post this, so apologies if this belongs in the relationships forum... I would just like to talk this out with some middle aged women.

I am female, 47, married (technically), professional, have one child who is reasonably independent (finally, thank God).....I expected to be settling into some lovely sedate middle act now that the frenetic years of child rearing and leaning in are over. Instead I find myself addicted to the most vile romance novels/series, if not straight up smut. What is this? A midlife crisis? Hormones going crazy one last time? Does this pass? When?

My objections are that it is so undignified somehow to be stuck in a teenage frame of mind at my stage in life. That it is so unproductive. I used to read real books about philosophy and art. I used to be a fuller, happier, more original person.

Commiseration, advice from other women who have been through this would be most welcome.


Oooh can you give me book recommendations please?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 17:41     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask your doctor to have your testosterone levels checked. When women have high testosterone, which can happen for a variety of reasons before, during or after menopause, they become unusually interested in sex. That can be a good thing but high testosterone also can indicate a serious hormone problem, especially when it is generated by the ovaries or an ovarian tumor but also when it is generated by the adrenals.



Lord. Only on DCUM. The woman likes reading smut and you are suggesting she get checked for ovarian cancer and adrenal issues.


Right??? A woman has an interest in sex - totally normal, in fact, healthy and good. But instead of celebrating it and offering book/movie suggestions, we're going to pathologize you.


OP here. it's actually a good suggestion (thanks to that PP). I've known smut exists since I was a teenager and until last fall would not have had any interest in it. And now, it is the best part of my day .

But yes, I am open to enjoying it while I work out what is going on, so recommendations are welcome as well!

Thanks also to the book club PP. I didn't expect actual kindness on here.


Thanks for being open minded OP. I know someone, a post menopausal woman, who suddenly had some symptoms that led her dr to test her testosterone only to find that it was off the charts high. This person was quite surprised to find that this could even happen but it explained her heightened interest in sex among other things. She had to have her ovaries removed once they determined they were the source of the testosterone. It hasn't been long enough now to know whether all her symptoms will resolve or how long that will take. Drs don't routinely test that in women, you have to bring it up. If you decide to do that I hope it turns out you are just feeling pretty frisky and there is no medical issue involved.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 16:34     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Do you mean you're consuming pornography?

Normal. It'll get you off.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 16:26     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask your doctor to have your testosterone levels checked. When women have high testosterone, which can happen for a variety of reasons before, during or after menopause, they become unusually interested in sex. That can be a good thing but high testosterone also can indicate a serious hormone problem, especially when it is generated by the ovaries or an ovarian tumor but also when it is generated by the adrenals.



Lord. Only on DCUM. The woman likes reading smut and you are suggesting she get checked for ovarian cancer and adrenal issues.


Right??? A woman has an interest in sex - totally normal, in fact, healthy and good. But instead of celebrating it and offering book/movie suggestions, we're going to pathologize you.


OP here. it's actually a good suggestion (thanks to that PP). I've known smut exists since I was a teenager and until last fall would not have had any interest in it. And now, it is the best part of my day .

But yes, I am open to enjoying it while I work out what is going on, so recommendations are welcome as well!

Thanks also to the book club PP. I didn't expect actual kindness on here.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 16:13     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask your doctor to have your testosterone levels checked. When women have high testosterone, which can happen for a variety of reasons before, during or after menopause, they become unusually interested in sex. That can be a good thing but high testosterone also can indicate a serious hormone problem, especially when it is generated by the ovaries or an ovarian tumor but also when it is generated by the adrenals.



Lord. Only on DCUM. The woman likes reading smut and you are suggesting she get checked for ovarian cancer and adrenal issues.


Right??? A woman has an interest in sex - totally normal, in fact, healthy and good. But instead of celebrating it and offering book/movie suggestions, we're going to pathologize you.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 15:55     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask your doctor to have your testosterone levels checked. When women have high testosterone, which can happen for a variety of reasons before, during or after menopause, they become unusually interested in sex. That can be a good thing but high testosterone also can indicate a serious hormone problem, especially when it is generated by the ovaries or an ovarian tumor but also when it is generated by the adrenals.



Lord. Only on DCUM. The woman likes reading smut and you are suggesting she get checked for ovarian cancer and adrenal issues.


The OP asked if this could be because of hormones gone crazy. Most women are entirely unaware of the effects of having high testosterone that happens suddenly. I know way more about this than you obviously do. Being unusually interested in sex and/or smut does not necessarily indicate this but it is a possibility. Do you think it's better if women don't know that?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 15:43     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:I dunno OP. Maybe you should just lighten up and just lean into what you actually enjoy. It must be exhausting to be nearing 50 and holding yourself to this meaningless standard.

+1 One of the great things about getting older is not GAF.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 15:42     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

I dunno OP. Maybe you should just lighten up and just lean into what you actually enjoy. It must be exhausting to be nearing 50 and holding yourself to this meaningless standard.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 15:41     Subject: Middleaged women and smut

Anonymous wrote:Ask your doctor to have your testosterone levels checked. When women have high testosterone, which can happen for a variety of reasons before, during or after menopause, they become unusually interested in sex. That can be a good thing but high testosterone also can indicate a serious hormone problem, especially when it is generated by the ovaries or an ovarian tumor but also when it is generated by the adrenals.



Lord. Only on DCUM. The woman likes reading smut and you are suggesting she get checked for ovarian cancer and adrenal issues.