Anonymous wrote:These....don't seem like terrible salaries for people who only work 80% of the year.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY2024-teacher-195-day.pdf

My niece just started an entry level consulting job making $85K and is probably working 50-55 hour weeks. Adjusted for a full year's salary, a first year teacher without a master's degree working the same number of hours during the school year is making $76,000. And yes, I'm adjusting for having the summer off. I would love to have the summer off!!

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty standard for this type of organization, OP.

And before you ask, I received a 1% raise this year (and yes, I go into the office 5 days a week and no, I don't get summers off).

Teachers salaries reflect that they do not work over the summer. They can choose to be paid over the course of the year or just during the school year but a part of the reason that Teachers salaries are lower is because they do not work for 12 months out of the year. They do work more then 40 hours a week and most are working over winter and spring break.

I think the idea of different raises based on position makes sense. Gatehouse should see a smaller pay raise, regular teachers a larger raise and special ed teachers the largest raise. The money should be going more to the people doing the work of teaching kids and less to the admin and staff. Special ed teachers are by far the most over worked teachers on staff and should see some additional money because of that.

Special education teachers do get paid more. They have for the past few years and will continue to be in a higher scale for FY 2025.

They get paid for an extra 30 minutes per day. But this post is about raises, not pay scale. Special ed shortages mean they should get higher raises, in my opinion.

Anonymous wrote:They need three salary scales: non-teaching positions like Gatehouse, teaching positions, and special ed teaching positions. E.g., A classroom teacher in an ED classroom absolutely should be paid more for work that is much more difficult.

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty standard for this type of organization, OP.

And before you ask, I received a 1% raise this year (and yes, I go into the office 5 days a week and no, I don't get summers off).

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Anonymous wrote:4% is more than my raise this year.
FCPS looking greedy.

It’s much more than my raise this year. And they just got a 2% raise in January on top of whatever raise they got last July (3%? 4?).

You’ve never received a raise of 3% or more?

NP. No, there has NEVER been a flat across the board raise in our company. It is based on performance. People who meet or exceed expectations get raises. People who do not will not get a raise.

Please share your list of evaluation criteria. On what would teacher raises be based?

Anonymous wrote:These....don't seem like terrible salaries for people who only work 80% of the year.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY2024-teacher-195-day.pdf

My niece just started an entry level consulting job making $85K and is probably working 50-55 hour weeks. Adjusted for a full year's salary, a first year teacher without a master's degree working the same number of hours during the school year is making $76,000. And yes, I'm adjusting for having the summer off. I would love to have the summer off!!

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Anonymous wrote:4% is more than my raise this year.
FCPS looking greedy.

It’s much more than my raise this year. And they just got a 2% raise in January on top of whatever raise they got last July (3%? 4?).

You’ve never received a raise of 3% or more?

NP. No, there has NEVER been a flat across the board raise in our company. It is based on performance. People who meet or exceed expectations get raises. People who do not will not get a raise.

Anonymous wrote:These....don't seem like terrible salaries for people who only work 80% of the year.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY2024-teacher-195-day.pdf

My niece just started an entry level consulting job making $85K and is probably working 50-55 hour weeks. Adjusted for a full year's salary, a first year teacher without a master's degree working the same number of hours during the school year is making $76,000. And yes, I'm adjusting for having the summer off. I would love to have the summer off!!

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty standard for this type of organization, OP.

And before you ask, I received a 1% raise this year (and yes, I go into the office 5 days a week and no, I don't get summers off).

Teachers salaries reflect that they do not work over the summer. They can choose to be paid over the course of the year or just during the school year but a part of the reason that Teachers salaries are lower is because they do not work for 12 months out of the year. They do work more then 40 hours a week and most are working over winter and spring break.

I think the idea of different raises based on position makes sense. Gatehouse should see a smaller pay raise, regular teachers a larger raise and special ed teachers the largest raise. The money should be going more to the people doing the work of teaching kids and less to the admin and staff. Special ed teachers are by far the most over worked teachers on staff and should see some additional money because of that.

Special education teachers do get paid more. They have for the past few years and will continue to be in a higher scale for FY 2025.

Anonymous wrote:Gatehouse should see a smaller pay raise, regular teachers a larger raise and special ed teachers the largest raise. The money should be going more to the people doing the work of teaching kids and less to the admin and staff. Special ed teachers are by far the most over worked teachers on staff and should see some additional money because of that.

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Anonymous wrote:4% is more than my raise this year.
FCPS looking greedy.

It’s much more than my raise this year. And they just got a 2% raise in January on top of whatever raise they got last July (3%? 4?).

And you have to understand that America has gotten away with underpaying a female dominated profession for a very long time. The landscape has changed since girls and women have so many more career paths open to them, and the result is that school districts now have to compete for labor. I understand that this is a struggle for some to comprehend but the laws of economics are at play here.

It's supply and demand. Teaching has always been one of the easiest degrees to get (at least until recently with the addition of lots of even easier programs) and the supply of teachers is has always been huge, and thanks to the unions bad teachers don't get removed from the system. The reason teaching wages are rising fast is that the cost of living has exploded, thanks to the massive inflation of the past couple years.

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Anonymous wrote:The Gatehouse salaries are such a low portion of the overall budget I don't see why that would be a factor.

It isn’t a factor, just a silly talking point to pit employees against themselves so that they forget that the Board of Supervisors and state are the real roadblocks to pay.

I don’t see the Board of Supervisors as a roadblock. They know they can’t keep increasing the tax burden on families without adverse or unintended consequences.

As long as people vote for D taxes will always go up. Main reason why people are starting to leave Fairfax County.