If you take the very top public HS students and compare them to private school students, I'm sure you'd seem very similar outcomes.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

Anonymous wrote:Well- all of our neighbors that told us we were dumb to send our kids to a private high school aren't saying that anymore--after this college admissions cycle.

This^^

Anonymous wrote:Anyone notice an imbalance of girls vs boys?

Girls seem to go to the higher ranked schools in larger numbers?

No. But maybe because my sons are at an all-male HS. Lol. But they have a ton of T10/T20 acceptances this year and the entire class did very well.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

It's diluted because the biggest filter for private high school is a parent's ability to afford private high school. Among middle class and upper middle class kids, the ability to afford private college is also the biggest filter

Very tough to get in. Need to take HS entrance exams--not easy. Needed straight As from MS and teacher recs. 700 applicants for about 200 spots---which is even smaller for us non-sibling/non-people...probably more like for 100 spots. It felt like applying to college. Essays and supplementals as well.

yea, in public schools, you don't even have to show legal resident status or speak the language, or you have all kinds of behavioral issues, and they still have to take you.

Not really a fair comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

It's diluted because the biggest filter for private high school is a parent's ability to afford private high school. Among middle class and upper middle class kids, the ability to afford private college is also the biggest filter

Very tough to get in. Need to take HS entrance exams--not easy. Needed straight As from MS and teacher recs. 700 applicants for about 200 spots---which is even smaller for us non-sibling/non-people...probably more like for 100 spots. It felt like applying to college. Essays and supplementals as well.

All of that can be true, but the biggest filter is still the ability and willingness to pay for the school. If that wasn't a factor, that 700 applicant pool would grow exponentially.

Well- all of our neighbors that told us we were dumb to send our kids to a private high school aren't saying that anymore--after this college admissions cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

It's diluted because the biggest filter for private high school is a parent's ability to afford private high school. Among middle class and upper middle class kids, the ability to afford private college is also the biggest filter

Very tough to get in. Need to take HS entrance exams--not easy. Needed straight As from MS and teacher recs. 700 applicants for about 200 spots---which is even smaller for us non-sibling/non-people...probably more like for 100 spots. It felt like applying to college. Essays and supplementals as well.

Privates have carefully curated classes loaded with hooked students. I have heard theories that the same exact student coming from a public will stand out more. I think that assumes GPA at a public would be slightly higher and all else the same, which isn’t always a fair assumption depending on the actual private and public compared. I really don’t know if the theory is true overall, but there was some anecdotal evidence to this effect in our kids’ years.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

It's diluted because the biggest filter for private high school is a parent's ability to afford private high school. Among middle class and upper middle class kids, the ability to afford private college is also the biggest filter

Very true, not to mention that private schools can create the student body that they want, whereas, public schools cannot, even the rich ones.

Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Counting up Sidwell, looks like 33% are going to a Top 20 and only 1% additionally are going to a Top 10 SLAC.

That sounds about what it has been in recent years. Yes, if you expand to Top 40 National and Top 20 SLAC it will be 70%+. Again, that seems par for the course.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

It's diluted because the biggest filter for private high school is a parent's ability to afford private high school. Among middle class and upper middle class kids, the ability to afford private college is also the biggest filter

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Anonymous wrote:Private to private.
Public to public.

What does this mean?

It means the PP is dumb.

Insinuating that public school students go to public colleges, and private school students to go private colleges.

The percentage of private school students is tiny compared to the in coming college freshman class as a whole, yet many end up at state flagships.

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Anonymous wrote:Our non-DMV private:

- 15% of class is committed to Ivy
- 50% is attending T25 or T5 SLAC (and closer to 65% if counting T10 SLAC)
- If counting T40, it’s 85%.

It’s a materially better year than last 2 cycles.

Test scores and HS caliber/rigor (not course rigor as we don’t even have official APs) seems to matter a lot. Plus private colleges want kids who will easily do well and thrive.

Plus you were able to screen out the undesirables through testing and interviews. So of course your results reflect the students you have.

+1 kids with the same high work ethic and high caliber stats in public also get into T10, especially from magnet schools. It's just diluted because public HS grads are like 600+ kids per class.

Anonymous wrote:Last year at our highly competitive private there were, indeed, many T20 kids. However, all but about 5 were unhooked. The vast majority have hooks, it's just that you don't understand how many are hooked students there are (We didn't either until going though the entire process and seeing it play out.)

OP these are kids I know and have known for 15 years. So I know first gen, what parents do, legacy, athletes. What I don't know is if they checked the box for FA or not. This is a well off area, mostly two professional parents with HHI in range of 250-450ish. Not Wall Street money. But maybe decided, eh, we're not getting FA so I'll take the boost that comes with not checking that one box -- but then again, these are top schools that are need blind so I dont think it even matters .. or maybe it does.

Anonymous wrote:Private to private.
Public to public.

What does this mean?