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Anonymous wrote:If interested in UK schools, be sure to hit the APs. You'll need five 5s for oxford or Cambridge.

Oxford only needs 3.

That’s the minimum and most won’t be accepted with only 3. They want to see mastery of your subject and three AP’s over the course of 3/4 years isn’t enough unless they have MAJOR academic accomplishments (published research in a reputable journal, published books, etc).

Hence the 20%-30% acceptance rate for many programs? Come on.

20%-30% acceptance rates for Oxford or Cambridge? No way

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It's a different system. Percentages can't be compared to U.S. Self-selecting. See 9:52's post above.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure, she hasn't mentioned any Asian universities to me. I will suggest it to her. I think she would be open to it!

Keio

Waseda

Doshisha

All in Japan / check them out

Those are great universities in Japan. I don't think they convey much value outside of Japan, though.

Once you live in Japan you never want to leave

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Anonymous wrote:If interested in UK schools, be sure to hit the APs. You'll need five 5s for oxford or Cambridge.

Oxford only needs 3.

NP Is that seriously all you need, assuming that and good grades?! My dd has four 5s already.

Anonymous wrote:Le Sorbonne
Padua
Bologna

UniBo!

Bologna is an awesome place to study

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rates aren't alone indicative of selectivity at international universities. International unis like Oxbridge or McGill have very high GPA cut-offs (A- or above) to even being considered. That's why the acceptance rates (20-40%) look high, it's because they are only considering students who have an A average to begin with. So 20% of top students (oxford/cambridge) is almost the same as 5-10% of anyone (US top universities that do a more "holistic admission" with zero cut-offs).

yes-you have a very good point!

Acceptance rates aren't alone indicative of selectivity at international universities. International unis like Oxbridge or McGill have very high GPA cut-offs (A- or above) to even being considered. That's why the acceptance rates (20-40%) look high, it's because they are only considering students who have an A average to begin with. So 20% of top students (oxford/cambridge) is almost the same as 5-10% of anyone (US top universities that do a more "holistic admission" with zero cut-offs).

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Anonymous wrote:If interested in UK schools, be sure to hit the APs. You'll need five 5s for oxford or Cambridge.

Oxford only needs 3.

That’s the minimum and most won’t be accepted with only 3. They want to see mastery of your subject and three AP’s over the course of 3/4 years isn’t enough unless they have MAJOR academic accomplishments (published research in a reputable journal, published books, etc).

Hence the 20%-30% acceptance rate for many programs? Come on.

20%-30% acceptance rates for Oxford or Cambridge? No way

There are way too many great international universities to list. What does she want to study? What languages does she speak? For business, for instance, she can consider Bocconi in Italy, Esade in Spain…. If you can provide her intended major and languages, people might be able to give helpful info.

McGill is very selective and difficult to be admitted to. You need a minimum of 3.8 unweighted GPA in Gr.10-12 as a cut-off to even submit an application. 39% of that selective group get in, but people without that GPA don't even apply so the percent number is different than the US when any B student can apply to an ivy league. Also, to apply to McGill you need an A- minimum in every year of English, Science and Math (one B+ unweighted will put you below the cut-off for a BA application). You also need a minimum threshold on ACT/SAT to even apply.

There is no "holistic application" in Canada like there is in the US. Cut-offs reduce the number of applications (denominator) by a lot so the admission rate of 39% seems deceptively high.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, especially for CS or Computer Engineering but also for other STEM, look into U. Waterloo in Ontario.

All the top US tech companies recruit heavily from there for jobs in US, Canada, Ireland, and other places. It is the CMU of Canada really.

. . .Also, McGill will probably require B1 French proficiency to graduate

True, but you can take French classes offered by Quebec that not only are free but actually pay you a small stipend to attend. Developing French proficiency is a bonus of going to school in Montreal, not a drawback.

Really? which classes are these?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, especially for CS or Computer Engineering but also for other STEM, look into U. Waterloo in Ontario.

All the top US tech companies recruit heavily from there for jobs in US, Canada, Ireland, and other places. It is the CMU of Canada really.

. . .Also, McGill will probably require B1 French proficiency to graduate

True, but you can take French classes offered by Quebec that not only are free but actually pay you a small stipend to attend. Developing French proficiency is a bonus of going to school in Montreal, not a drawback.

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Anonymous wrote:If interested in UK schools, be sure to hit the APs. You'll need five 5s for oxford or Cambridge.

Oxford only needs 3.

That’s the minimum and most won’t be accepted with only 3. They want to see mastery of your subject and three AP’s over the course of 3/4 years isn’t enough unless they have MAJOR academic accomplishments (published research in a reputable journal, published books, etc).

Hence the 20%-30% acceptance rate for many programs? Come on.

AS has been explained on DCUM multiple times. In the UK you can only apply to 5 universities and you MUST have your school's approval. Oxford and Cambridge candidates are basically hand chosen by their schools. No one gets to apply who is not in the top 1% of high achievers and whose teachers approve their application. You simply cannot do it. So the 20% of applicants is 20% of the top 1% not 20% of the thousands of under qualified applicants as you might see here in the US where it is a free for all who applies, without restrictions.

Anonymous wrote:Also, especially for CS or Computer Engineering but also for other STEM, look into U. Waterloo in Ontario.

All the top US tech companies recruit heavily from there for jobs in US, Canada, Ireland, and other places. It is the CMU of Canada really.

How hard to get into Waterloo?

Also, McGill will probably require B1 French proficiency to graduate

Also, especially for CS or Computer Engineering but also for other STEM, look into U. Waterloo in Ontario.

All the top US tech companies recruit heavily from there for jobs in US, Canada, Ireland, and other places. It is the CMU of Canada really.

I’ve studied in Canada & the UK. Canada offers an experience which is different enough to know you are in a foreign country, without the logistical hassles & adjustment to a completely different view if what education is.

The usual Canadian suspects are great, but the tend to be huge & aren’t the bargain they used to be for Americans. Check out Dalhousie University, Queen’s, McMaster, Glendon College, and for something completely different, Memorial University of Newfoundland.