Anonymous
05/19/2024 07:42
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one
Please it should let you know it is reality. It is not the way soccer is played in the US. In the rest of the world technical skills are the differentiator. By 16-17 the technical players are the only players(boys and girls) who consistently see the field. That is not true in the US.
Technical skills are extremely important for the pros but travel or college not so much. The level of play in travel and college is just so low that a fast athlete with below average technical skill can still play. It is much much easier to coach and it is easy to fill out your roster specially when you do not change your formation or style of play from u9.
Speed of play under pressure and in tight space is what differentiates players. High speed of play requires technical skills that are developed under pressure. Go to Spain and watch a few practices. Everything is done under pressure and in tight spaces(like 11 on 11 in a quarter of field). Even the throw in drills are done with 3-4 players. The big thing is all the players are technical. It is hard for a technical player to reach their potential without other technical players. You can not play 1 or 2 touch soccer(ie high speed of play) with someone who has a touch of a Doberman playing with a beach ball or who can not complete a pass under pressure.
It is not like that here. Here speed and size are the first thing that are evaluated and determines your team placement. That team placement rarely changes. Overseas it is first technical skills and then athleticism but at a much older age vs u9.
You articulated so much better what I've been wanting to say. Technical players are significantly hamstrung when not playing with other technical players. Great touches/passes get wasted. So teams get built up with strong/fast athletes to compensate for the lack of training these kids didn't get in their youth.
+1000. I’ve seen countless perfect through balls get wasted due to bad first touches and horrific lack of quality finishing. Sometimes, it seems they are attempting to kick a football field goal. LOL
Parents just love to see “big kicks”.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 07:25
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one
Please it should let you know it is reality. It is not the way soccer is played in the US. In the rest of the world technical skills are the differentiator. By 16-17 the technical players are the only players(boys and girls) who consistently see the field. That is not true in the US.
Technical skills are extremely important for the pros but travel or college not so much. The level of play in travel and college is just so low that a fast athlete with below average technical skill can still play. It is much much easier to coach and it is easy to fill out your roster specially when you do not change your formation or style of play from u9.
Speed of play under pressure and in tight space is what differentiates players. High speed of play requires technical skills that are developed under pressure. Go to Spain and watch a few practices. Everything is done under pressure and in tight spaces(like 11 on 11 in a quarter of field). Even the throw in drills are done with 3-4 players. The big thing is all the players are technical. It is hard for a technical player to reach their potential without other technical players. You can not play 1 or 2 touch soccer(ie high speed of play) with someone who has a touch of a Doberman playing with a beach ball or who can not complete a pass under pressure.
It is not like that here. Here speed and size are the first thing that are evaluated and determines your team placement. That team placement rarely changes. Overseas it is first technical skills and then athleticism but at a much older age vs u9.
You articulated so much better what I've been wanting to say. Technical players are significantly hamstrung when not playing with other technical players. Great touches/passes get wasted. So teams get built up with strong/fast athletes to compensate for the lack of training these kids didn't get in their youth.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 06:56
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
It’s such a shame that people, especially soccer parents, think that kickball is actually soccer.
It’s so easy to counter/stop fast and strong players. All a coach has to do is to keep 3-4 defenders in the back third to stop a long ball. A team needs technical players especially in the midfield to break down the defense and to pass accurate through balls to the forwards or to shot the ball themselves.
Also, it’s so amazing that there are so many one-footed players with such a pathetic weak foot, bad first touch that the ball bounces 5+ yards away and/or can’t do 1v1 if their live depends on it.
It’s so easy to counter/stop fast and strong players. All a coach has to do is to keep 3-4 defenders in the back third to stop a long ball. A team needs technical players especially in the midfield to break down the defense and to pass accurate through balls to the forwards or to shot the ball themselves.
Also, it’s so amazing that there are so many one-footed players with such a pathetic weak foot, bad first touch that the ball bounces 5+ yards away and/or can’t do 1v1 if their live depends on it.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 06:55
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
I would take speed and then you can develop technical ability pretty quickly with the right coaching.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 00:10
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
no very much the case.. area is highly recruited for footballAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.
Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
Which one did he develop first?
Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.
The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.
Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
Maybe in some regions, but this is not the case in the DMV.
Bball and baseball. I could take 2 RBs who never played soccer. Teach them first touch and a ball strike.. and they would dominate.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 00:08
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one
Please it should let you know it is reality. It is not the way soccer is played in the US. In the rest of the world technical skills are the differentiator. By 16-17 the technical players are the only players(boys and girls) who consistently see the field. That is not true in the US.
Technical skills are extremely important for the pros but travel or college not so much. The level of play in travel and college is just so low that a fast athlete with below average technical skill can still play. It is much much easier to coach and it is easy to fill out your roster specially when you do not change your formation or style of play from u9.
Speed of play under pressure and in tight space is what differentiates players. High speed of play requires technical skills that are developed under pressure. Go to Spain and watch a few practices. Everything is done under pressure and in tight spaces(like 11 on 11 in a quarter of field). Even the throw in drills are done with 3-4 players. The big thing is all the players are technical. It is hard for a technical player to reach their potential without other technical players. You can not play 1 or 2 touch soccer(ie high speed of play) with someone who has a touch of a Doberman playing with a beach ball or who can not complete a pass under pressure.
It is not like that here. Here speed and size are the first thing that are evaluated and determines your team placement. That team placement rarely changes. Overseas it is first technical skills and then athleticism but at a much older age vs u9.
Anonymous
05/18/2024 23:08
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:Billy all-American baseball is back with the soccer ignoramus takes 🔥
Thank you - you deserve an award for this post!
Anonymous
05/18/2024 23:05
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.
Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
Which one did he develop first?
Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.
The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.
Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
Maybe in some regions, but this is not the case in the DMV.
Anonymous
05/18/2024 22:00
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.
Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
Which one did he develop first?
Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.
The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.
Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
Winner of most uninformed and dunce comment of the week
Anonymous
05/18/2024 21:21
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Billy all-American baseball is back with the soccer ignoramus takes 🔥
Anonymous
05/18/2024 21:18
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.
Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
Which one did he develop first?
Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.
The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.
Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
Anonymous
05/18/2024 19:45
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
So moral of the story is if your kid is small and technical and you see an American coach on the spring coaching slate, keep shopping?
Anonymous
05/18/2024 17:23
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one
Or that it’s a US soccer forum.
Anonymous
05/18/2024 17:22
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
Anonymous wrote:The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one
Anonymous
05/18/2024 16:46
Subject: speed or technical ability? Age 11.
The fact so many said speed is more important than technical skills at 11 years old is letting you know this is a social forum, not a soccer one