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Anonymous wrote:OP, Are we talking about year round club coaches or summer club type coaches? There was a recent thread about summer coaching.

Club coaches. We all complain about bad coaches not getting fired but who here is going to go work full-time for ~$36,000 a year given the other option is just no coach.

Yes, I think it ranges 20k-70k. At our club, the boosters give all the coaches an annual bonus of 3-5k that I think is a gift, so it’s not taxed. We needed a new coach a few years ago and it was really hard to recruit because the cost of living in our town is so high. Fortunately, we have a couple of coaches who fit into that “40 and retired” demographic and can afford to live here on a coach’s salary. The other assistant coaches live in a different town and commute.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

That’s the nature of any sport or activity. Some parents pay for private music lessons, others pay for their athlete to see a trainer. I doubt many RMSC swimmers get private lessons but I am not opposed to it.

Many RMSC swimmers get private lessons just not from RMSC coaches.
It’s highly discouraged but makes no sense when RMSC is not very individualized at any level.

Define ‘many’

Most of the top RMSC swimmers got private lessons at some point. RMSC does not do a great job on stroke development so kids who show real promise at younger ages definitely get extra help. A non PVS coach who does lessons once sent out a group email so I saw all of our fellow swimmers who were getting lessons.

I guarantee this is false. I’d possibly agree if you had written that ~15-20% of current NTGs had a lesson or two in elementary school. Otherwise you are making bizarre assumptions or exaggerating as some weird flex.

Again, the percentage of kids getting private lessons are likely similar at all of the local clubs, including NCAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

That’s the nature of any sport or activity. Some parents pay for private music lessons, others pay for their athlete to see a trainer. I doubt many RMSC swimmers get private lessons but I am not opposed to it.

Many RMSC swimmers get private lessons just not from RMSC coaches.
It’s highly discouraged but makes no sense when RMSC is not very individualized at any level.

Define ‘many’

Most of the top RMSC swimmers got private lessons at some point. RMSC does not do a great job on stroke development so kids who show real promise at younger ages definitely get extra help. A non PVS coach who does lessons once sent out a group email so I saw all of our fellow swimmers who were getting lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

That’s the nature of any sport or activity. Some parents pay for private music lessons, others pay for their athlete to see a trainer. I doubt many RMSC swimmers get private lessons but I am not opposed to it.

Many RMSC swimmers get private lessons just not from RMSC coaches.
It’s highly discouraged but makes no sense when RMSC is not very individualized at any level.

Define ‘many’

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

That’s the nature of any sport or activity. Some parents pay for private music lessons, others pay for their athlete to see a trainer. I doubt many RMSC swimmers get private lessons but I am not opposed to it.

Many RMSC swimmers get private lessons just not from RMSC coaches.
It’s highly discouraged but makes no sense when RMSC is not very individualized at any level.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

That’s the nature of any sport or activity. Some parents pay for private music lessons, others pay for their athlete to see a trainer. I doubt many RMSC swimmers get private lessons but I am not opposed to it.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

How much do RMSC coaches charge for private lessons? Does that include the lane fee?

At Rockville, we pay $18 to the swim center and $24 to the coach.

Thanks! For a 30-minute lesson?

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

The private lesson isn't a thing on other teams. IMO it's questionable that they do that. Often times it appears like a pay to play game at RMSC.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

yep, but saw Ksac coaches doing stroke and turn all over the places, also saw many club swimmers (Ncap, asa, toll etc) taking private lessons at rockville

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

I’ve never seen an RMSC KSAC coach give private lessons. This may be a thing only at Rockville site

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Anonymous wrote:it is true, a lot have other jobs. but other clubs pay salaries for their coaches. clubs like NCAP, machine, ASA, Toll all have some coaches on salary. Just because rmsc doesn't value their coaches and pays even their national coaches hourly rates doesn't mean there aren't other clubs that treat their coaches better.

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My kids swim with Machine and my sense is that the head coach/site coach for each location is salaried and employed full-time. The others all have other jobs, so that's most of the coaches, but at the ones with more program oversight are compensated accordingly. I doubt they're super well-paid, but this is their full-time gig.

Some have more part time but they are all part time except the club owners.

Anonymous wrote:Swim coaches do not get paid well.

It’s a part time job.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

How much do RMSC coaches charge for private lessons? Does that include the lane fee?

At Rockville, we pay $18 to the swim center and $24 to the coach.

Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

How much do RMSC coaches charge for private lessons? Does that include the lane fee?