Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:45
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:I don't get why pps are saying that this wasn't your kids fault, so he should reap all the rewards.
Clearly he was so unorganized he couldn't keep track of his shit. If he was keeping his notebook in it's proper place, it's extremely unlikely some other person would have grabbed it. They'd have to go into his backpack and actually take it out - did they do that? If so, yes, escalate. If your kid is just so messy he didn't know where it was and then "magically" it was found after all the grades were in, ehh no.
I think the teacher is right. This is a lesson in organization. I am betting next year he is going to keep a better grasp on where his items are so as to avoid this. OP also admits this is an issue for him. I was a messy kid too, and I had to learn these same sort of lessons.
I disagree that it's clear he was disorganized. A plausible scenario would be he had the notebook on his desk, which is an appropriate place, got up to go to the bathroom and he or someone else accidentally knocked it on the floor. Another kid picked it up and put it with his stuff, and the OP's kid didn't notice until later. I can see that happening to anyone. He did all the work. It is just random luck that it was found a few days after grades were posted. Had the other kid noticed sooner then he would have been able to turn it in on time. The kid should get credit for the work he did.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:26
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
I don't get why pps are saying that this wasn't your kids fault, so he should reap all the rewards.
Clearly he was so unorganized he couldn't keep track of his shit. If he was keeping his notebook in it's proper place, it's extremely unlikely some other person would have grabbed it. They'd have to go into his backpack and actually take it out - did they do that? If so, yes, escalate. If your kid is just so messy he didn't know where it was and then "magically" it was found after all the grades were in, ehh no.
I think the teacher is right. This is a lesson in organization. I am betting next year he is going to keep a better grasp on where his items are so as to avoid this. OP also admits this is an issue for him. I was a messy kid too, and I had to learn these same sort of lessons.
Clearly he was so unorganized he couldn't keep track of his shit. If he was keeping his notebook in it's proper place, it's extremely unlikely some other person would have grabbed it. They'd have to go into his backpack and actually take it out - did they do that? If so, yes, escalate. If your kid is just so messy he didn't know where it was and then "magically" it was found after all the grades were in, ehh no.
I think the teacher is right. This is a lesson in organization. I am betting next year he is going to keep a better grasp on where his items are so as to avoid this. OP also admits this is an issue for him. I was a messy kid too, and I had to learn these same sort of lessons.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:18
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:It's elementary school OP. Nobody cares about grades.
Yeah, but a pizza party with friends can be a pretty big deal to a 10 or 11 yo.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:18
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
OP, for your son's sake .... do not escalate this. Do not make this into an even bigger deal. Yes, your son was hurt by this. We all suffer some injustices. I remember an elementary teacher accused me of lying, in front of the whole class, when she was the one who had lost my homework. She found it and apologized. Your son will need to weather stuff happening.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:56
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
It's elementary school OP. Nobody cares about grades.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:50
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything.
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other.
So you’re a race to the bottom type. I’m all for celebrating those who achieve something difficult.
You have no idea which things are difficult.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:47
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:5th grade has been working on a poetry notebook assignment all semester. Two days before it was due, he lost it. Looked everywhere at school and at home and could not find it. I messaged teacher about redoing it and she said it was way too much work to redo in such a short amount of time, and to let this be a lesson in organization. He 100% does struggle in this area, so we told him he would just have to deal with the consequence of not making honor roll. He was devastated. 3 days after grades were sent home, a friend finds it in his desk, he accidently grabbed my son's on accident. His teacher just laughed it off, but said she can't go in and change anything at this point. My son feels it isn't fair because it wasn't his fault his friend grabbed it. I obviously don't know that it wasn't somewhere it wasn't supposed to be, and that is why the friend picked it up. My son wants me to try and get it changed, but I'm leaning to toward just letting it go.
Teacher is blaming your son to cover up her own failure to manage the other kids in the classroom. Explain to her and the principal that she undermining her own authority and projecting incompetence.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:45
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything.
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other.
So you’re a race to the bottom type. I’m all for celebrating those who achieve something difficult.
Doing something meaningful beats doing something difficult every time, unless you are a professional clown.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:44
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything. [/quote]
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other. [/quote]
So you’re a race to the bottom type. I’m all for celebrating those who achieve something difficult. [/quote]
Ooh it's so difficult to steal someone else's notebook so their grade drops.
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything. [/quote]
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other. [/quote]
So you’re a race to the bottom type. I’m all for celebrating those who achieve something difficult. [/quote]
Ooh it's so difficult to steal someone else's notebook so their grade drops.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:15
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
I would nicely ask the admin to change it. Kid is being penalized for another kid’s actions.
I wouldn’t push super hard on it but it’s worth asking/explaining to someone who can change the grade.
I wouldn’t push super hard on it but it’s worth asking/explaining to someone who can change the grade.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:03
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Do you know for a fact that this assignment would bring up his overall letter grade? At the end of the day, the assignment was not turned in. She can not grade what was not turned in and the grade is already posted.
In my school district, posted grades can be changed.
However for elementary school, it is just not that critical.
I think the teacher's attitude is poor.
I would try the "look on the bright side" approach that his work is found and explain that sometimes stuff happens and there's not always complete justice. Make sure he knows he can make Honor Roll many more times in his young life.
Regardless of who was at fault, the point stands that it's healthy to to experience disappointments and to be imperfect. Otherwise you run the risk of being the disliked pair of grade grubber child and helicopter parent later. It's also great that the creative work was recovered. I'd recommend that you read through it and discuss your son's poetry with him.
As a parent, you don't want to forget about it, you want to make it a palatable learning opportunity about reacting to screwups and disappointment.
This is good advice. BUT, the story sounds shady. Any chance the other kid took your kid's project to mess with him?
My kids would have been devastated to lose a big project. I hope this is a great lesson in resilience, but it feels a little unfair all around.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 09:00
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything.
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other.
So you’re a race to the bottom type. I’m all for celebrating those who achieve something difficult.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 08:58
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything.
Oh, hmmm. I would probably ask the teacher about this reward. Don’t care about the grade change but it wasn’t his fault so why should he lose out on this?
Where do they do this? Our elementary and middle schools don’t recognize academic achievement at all, in any way.
I actually agree with this. If he did the work he should get to participate in the pizza party reward. The "lesson" here about organization doesn't sound true to life to me -- an adult in the same situation would not be carrying an assignment around in their backpack all year. They'd have a desk somewhere to store it, or even better, they'd do it on a computer and be able to save it. This is a dumb thing to be punished over, especially if he's otherwise a conscientious kid who does all his work.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 08:56
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Give your kid a poetry journal party.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 08:56
Subject: Not making honor roll for missing assignment. Let it go or say something?
Anonymous wrote:Op here,
I think it’s the silly end of the year pizza party they get if they made honor roll all year. lol
I don’t think I’ll say anything.
This exclusionary elitist pizza party is unacceptable. Much bigger deal than 5th grade GPA. I'd take that to the principal.
Celebrations should be making the team successful, not for competing and undermining each other.