Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

Did the other murder suspects shoot an AR 15 26 times at a moving vehicle with four people in it on Independence Ave???? This man, who is 18 and a legal adult, clearly has no regard for other people's lives.

You really missed my point entirely.

Is this an outlier situation or isn't it?

DP. It’s not an outlier situation sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

Did the other murder suspects shoot an AR 15 26 times at a moving vehicle with four people in it on Independence Ave???? This man, who is 18 and a legal adult, clearly has no regard for other people's lives.

You really missed my point entirely.

Is this an outlier situation or isn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

Did the other murder suspects shoot an AR 15 26 times at a moving vehicle with four people in it on Independence Ave???? This man, who is 18 and a legal adult, clearly has no regard for other people's lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

Did the other murder suspects shoot an AR 15 26 times at a moving vehicle with four people in it on Independence Ave???? This man, who is 18 and a legal adult, clearly has no regard for other people's lives.

Anonymous wrote:Some context- the defendant was released on 24 confinement to a residence with an ankle monitor. He is pending trial, and it sure looks like the evidence at this point leads to conviction and incarceration.

Some context I cannot immediately locate- what percentage of cases involving similar conduct result in this type of pre-trial release?

I'd love the data, but anecdotally it seems fairly common for even murder suspects to be released on bail?

My question is whether this case is substantially different than results in other cases, which would mean we have an anomaly to investigate involving this judge. Alternatively, if this type of result is common, we are investigating the system as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

DP to clarify - that's sufficient for pretrial detainment without bail. At least, it should be.

Third post. The OAG actually agrees on this one as they are appealing the decision to release without bail. The same office that drops a ridiculously high number of illegal gun possession cases.

If you believe in gun control laws, I hope you believe in actually enforcing them. Otherwise you're a hypocrite. And for clarity, I'm a democrat. A democrat who is sick of gun violence, sick of leniency in laws that make it easy for criminals to obtain guns, and sick of leniency in enforcing gun laws when they are broken.

I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. However, it seems a bit off base, no?
A decision on pre-trial detainment is not a decision on enforcing the law
A crime of attempted murder is not really a "gun control" question.

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If someone is seen on several videos walking into a school with an AR-15, then spraying the school with bullets, it's ok to let them go on pre-trial release if nobody was actually injured by those bullets?

I literally said nothing like that.
I was separating issues. We can talk about the pre-trial release decision, but this is NOT about law enforcement or gun control

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

DP to clarify - that's sufficient for pretrial detainment without bail. At least, it should be.

Third post. The OAG actually agrees on this one as they are appealing the decision to release without bail. The same office that drops a ridiculously high number of illegal gun possession cases.

If you believe in gun control laws, I hope you believe in actually enforcing them. Otherwise you're a hypocrite. And for clarity, I'm a democrat. A democrat who is sick of gun violence, sick of leniency in laws that make it easy for criminals to obtain guns, and sick of leniency in enforcing gun laws when they are broken.

I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. However, it seems a bit off base, no?
A decision on pre-trial detainment is not a decision on enforcing the law
A crime of attempted murder is not really a "gun control" question.

t

If someone is seen on several videos walking into a school with an AR-15, then spraying the school with bullets, it's ok to let them go on pre-trial release if nobody was actually injured by those bullets?

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

DP to clarify - that's sufficient for pretrial detainment without bail. At least, it should be.

Third post. The OAG actually agrees on this one as they are appealing the decision to release without bail. The same office that drops a ridiculously high number of illegal gun possession cases.

If you believe in gun control laws, I hope you believe in actually enforcing them. Otherwise you're a hypocrite. And for clarity, I'm a democrat. A democrat who is sick of gun violence, sick of leniency in laws that make it easy for criminals to obtain guns, and sick of leniency in enforcing gun laws when they are broken.

I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. However, it seems a bit off base, no?
A decision on pre-trial detainment is not a decision on enforcing the law
A crime of attempted murder is not really a "gun control" question.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

DP to clarify - that's sufficient for pretrial detainment without bail. At least, it should be.

Third post. The OAG actually agrees on this one as they are appealing the decision to release without bail. The same office that drops a ridiculously high number of illegal gun possession cases.

If you believe in gun control laws, I hope you believe in actually enforcing them. Otherwise you're a hypocrite. And for clarity, I'm a democrat. A democrat who is sick of gun violence, sick of leniency in laws that make it easy for criminals to obtain guns, and sick of leniency in enforcing gun laws when they are broken.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

DP to clarify - that's sufficient for pretrial detainment without bail. At least, it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.

Was he intentionally trying to kill someone? Yes. Could a stray bullet have killed? Yes. That's enough for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I checked, you could be bailed out of jail for crimes. What was the bond?

I don’t understand what being “woke” has to do with following the law.

Are you suggesting he should be held without bail? In what grounds? Why do you hate America and our justice system?

DC effectively doesn't have money bail and hasn't since the early 90s. The options are release with conditions or a hold. He was released with conditions (house arrest with an ankle monitor). Legally, he could be held in DC on the basis of having been charged with a crime of violence, if the judge didn't believe that any combination of pretrial conditions would ensure both that he would appear for trial and community safety.

He is still presumed innocent until proven guilty and he still has constitutional rights despite a lot of “anti-woke” (meaning anti-America) demands. People who whine about wokeness are seriously the worst people who hate this country and its basic tenets.

There’s literally video of him spraying a residential street with machine gun fire.

Sometimes I wish people like you would be forced to go meet with the family of people killed or injured by stray bullets. You’re not being a hero. You’re literally arguing for more poor black kids to get shot.

To be clear: Did anyone die from being hit by one of this shooter's bullets? Because if not, you just inserted some random, irrelevant bullshit into this conversation.