No, but both are excellent schools. Kids that go to Barnard should NOT have a chip on their shoulder. I went to NYU in the early 90s and both Barnard and Columbia had a great reputation (NYU was good back then, but nothing like it is now).

Anonymous wrote:What difference does it make? Seriously, why does anyone care?

OP cares and probably posts this every few months

What difference does it make? Seriously, why does anyone care?

UVA list Wise as their campus, so is UVA Wise UVA?

Barnard-Columbia sounds so desperate

If someone went to Wharton undergrad, would you object to them saying they went to Penn? Sometimes they may just say it because people have heard of one not the other and its simpler to explain.

It's a bit unique but Columbia lists them as one of their undergraduate schools in its website, so it seems to be accurate.

FWIW Barnard athletes play in the Ivy League.

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Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

This is from Barnard's website, not from Columbia's.

And?

Here are the facts.
Barnard’s official title is “Barnard College, Columbia University”
Barnard grads receive a Columbia degree.
Columbia reviews Barnard faculty for tenure.
Barnard is inside the Columbia quad.
It was originally independent but the Columbia trustees were persuaded in the 1880s to make it the Columbia women’s college since Columbia College was all male.

Admittedly the relationship is unique and not easily characterized in simple terms. But it’s not like Barnard is some parasite leeching off Columbia. None of the above would happen without Columbia’s knowledge and blessing that Barnard is part of Columbia. So back to my earlier point-why does it bother OP or anyone else for someone going to Barnard to say they are going to Barnard-Columbia or even just Columbia. Do you require GSA students to say they aren’t part of the “real” Columbia? Oh wait you probably would 🙄🙄🙄

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

Why not use one name then?

OP

Barnard is an affiliate. They have to pay annually to Columbia for it.

Show us the evidence

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

Why not use one name then?

OP

Neighbor is saying Barnard-Columbia because Columbia is an Ivy. Surely your get this, OP?

You don’t get it. That is exactly what bothers OP

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Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

Why not use one name then?

OP

Barnard is an affiliate. They have to pay annually to Columbia for it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

Why not use one name then?

OP

Neighbor is saying Barnard-Columbia because Columbia is an Ivy. Surely your get this, OP?

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Anonymous wrote:No one who is going. To Barnard should be saying they’re going to Columbia. But the schools are combined in many aspect. My DH who went to Columbia views them as one and the same and views his Barnard counterparts as classmates.

So Barnard students shouldn’t consider themselves part of the Columbia student body but Columbia students should consider Barnard students part of Columbia? Right. Gotcha. Crystal clear.

FWIW, Barnard IS an official college of Columbia. It’s not some loose affiliation. This may offend the notions of some on here who think they know the exact pecking order of universities in this country, but it’s just a fact.

https://catalog.barnard.edu/barnard-college/college/#:~:text=Barnard%20is%20both%20an%20independently,rich%2C%20value%2Denhancing%20partnership.

Why not use one name then?

OP

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Anonymous wrote:More to the point, why the F does OP care his neighbor’s daughter characterizes her college? Whether it’s just “Barnard” or “Barnard-Columbia” has exactly zero effect on your life. DCUM obsession with being the self appointed guardian of fencing off certain colleges as “elite” is mind boggling.

Agree, OP is hot and bothered because they feel that neighbor did better.

No, I was asking if it’s the same school and why someone would say they are attending Columbia if they attend Barnard. I figured there must be a reason.



OP