Anonymous wrote:I have applied my kid to AAP this year and last year. Cogat and NNAT were in the 135-140 range and ireadys always 90-98%. He always gets rejected. GBRS/Hope has always been mid range. Never really understood it.

What about report cards?

I have applied my kid to AAP this year and last year. Cogat and NNAT were in the 135-140 range and ireadys always 90-98%. He always gets rejected. GBRS/Hope has always been mid range. Never really understood it.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach AAP. Majority fall in the 90 percentile but also have kids in 60-80s. There are many Level 4 kids who are strong only in one subject.

Same with my AAP class. I have one kid who was at 40th percentile. A couple in the 60s at beginning of year.

Isn't it more common for kids score low in fall?

My kid has gone from percentile in 60s in fall to mid 90s at the end for a couple years now on math (and yes, I'm using the norms table correctly). Teacher says it's not uncommon and don't fret over fall scores.

My kids typically go down throughout the course of the year, or stay about the same. We do some minor supplementation in language arts and math over the summer (not a lot, at all) and apparently that makes a bigger difference than the curriculum some years.

Anonymous wrote:The AAP label is permanent, and a kid cannot be removed. Hypothetically speaking, if an AAP 5th grader fails the 6th grade math SOL, then the school will have to spend a bunch of resources on remediation for that kid to help them pass 6th grade math, rather than take the logical step of dropping them down to grade level math.

I know kids who moved from LIV to Gen Ed math. I know the parents who flat out admitted that their kid was not ready for Advanced Math and made the move in 5th grade, when the grade skip comes. I am not sure how much of a conversation occurs between the school and the parent. I also know kids in LIV who barely scrape a pass on the math SOL in 5th and 6th grade, again parents share info, and who scored in the 70th and 80th percentile on the IAAT.

FCPS needs an Advanced Math and Advanced LA path for kids so that each group of kids can be placed in sections that work for them. Too many kids who are strong in LA end up in LIV who struggle with the math because there is not a comparable Advanced Math class and the parent want their kids in a class that is more challenging for LA. Since there is not an Advanced LA class, the parents push for LIV services and the kids struggle with the math.

The AAP label is permanent, and a kid cannot be removed. Hypothetically speaking, if an AAP 5th grader fails the 6th grade math SOL, then the school will have to spend a bunch of resources on remediation for that kid to help them pass 6th grade math, rather than take the logical step of dropping them down to grade level math.

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Anonymous wrote:There a kids in AAP, who had low cogat and iready, but high HOPE got them in. One cant expect them to score mid or high 90 percentiles on iready.

But also, AAP is 20 percent of the county kids and no, 20 percent of the county, even a high SES county, is not always in the top 95th or higher percentile on every iready test. AAP is not a gifted program.

It's a slightly accelerated program for mostly bright, but normal, kids.

It's both. At some center schools, it seems to be more one, and at other center schools, more the other.

What happens if AAP center students consistently score in the lower percentiles 30-40s in fall, winter and spring in reading, math or both? do these students get intervention? do they exit AAP? Do they drop down to local AAP? is this atypical?

The center is not more elite. The same curriculum is being taught. You gave kids who struggle in AAP at the center and at local programs. The funny thing is a lot of parents don’t see behind the scenes data that school admin can see. I think many would be surprised that many local level 4 schools out performed some centers on winter VGA.

They would qualify for intervention if they fall under a certain threshold, just like any kid.

There is no mechanism to exit kids from full time AAP or even part time unless the parents approve, and they never do. So the stay in and struggle and their parents get them tutors.

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Anonymous wrote:There a kids in AAP, who had low cogat and iready, but high HOPE got them in. One cant expect them to score mid or high 90 percentiles on iready.

But also, AAP is 20 percent of the county kids and no, 20 percent of the county, even a high SES county, is not always in the top 95th or higher percentile on every iready test. AAP is not a gifted program.

It's a slightly accelerated program for mostly bright, but normal, kids.

It's both. At some center schools, it seems to be more one, and at other center schools, more the other.

What happens if AAP center students consistently score in the lower percentiles 30-40s in fall, winter and spring in reading, math or both? do these students get intervention? do they exit AAP? Do they drop down to local AAP? is this atypical?

Nothing happens.

Anonymous wrote:Where do you get Iready scores? My kid’s teacher always says his iready scores are “fine” and then we move on, so I have no ideas what they are or what percentile my child is in.

FWIW, he is in AAP.

iReady scores are in ParentVue under Test History. You have to look at Documents for the iReady letter that was sent home. Inside the letter it will indicate the test results in detail and the national percentile.