My unhooked DD submitted a score 10 points below the 25th percentile with a little over 50% reporting. Accepted ED1. We asked AO and were told to submit. I think they’re increasingly mindful of their submitting percentage and want that over 50%. DC did not have amazing AP scores so just listed the award but didn’t submit those scores. If DC had a bunch of 5s, probably would have gone to for SAT. Calculate what is probably the approximate median SAT score for accepted students, presuming that all who didn’t submit were below the 25th percentile. Are you near the 50th percentile?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think it helps the application?

For context, it is a male applicant, with high GPA and rigor, at a need blind school. Strong ECs but not hooked.

TO. I have an S who is hooked and was WL/rejected at the two schools where his score is 25%-10%ile of last year’s cohort. High rigor, unweighted 4.0. We are a donut hole family. Both of these factors hurt him in admissions at these schools.

He’s happy with where he ended up but he really wasted his time applying to those schools.

Keep it simple stupid: YES

I would submit, what range is 50% at the school in question?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think it helps the application?

For context, it is a male applicant, with high GPA and rigor, at a need blind school. Strong ECs but not hooked.

Majors?

Not STEM

Yes, scores are must if in that range. Majority of non-stem are not able to score high.

Interesting--never considered that angle. But don't non-stem applicants do well on verbal? or do STEM applicants even outperform on verbal?

My stem kid got a percent verbal score, so yes many do.

Keeping it simple: NO

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Anonymous wrote:At a SLAC with just over 50% submitting scores.

Definitely not, unless hooked URM

There you are! I was starting to wonder after your health. You almost let a whole morning go by without making a "hooked URM" comment.

Glad to see you are well. Physically at least

Anonymous wrote:At a SLAC with just over 50% submitting scores.

Definitely not, unless hooked URM

PP: if it’s 1400+ I’d agree that I’d be slightly more inclined than sub-1400

I say submit if:

- scores are lopsided and one is at/above 75th
- you have hooks including full-pay
- there is something significant that gives your student an edge story-wise

Otherwise…maybe not.

I would submit a 1400 or higher in this situation.

OP, ask your guidance counselor this question and trust their advice. They know your school and how admissions officers view your school. Also, superscoring is your friend. Your DC could easily get 40-60 point improvement by superscoring. Focused one on one tutoring on weak areas will help improve the score quickly. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Better to TO, as most LACs only care for money and easier way to manipulate the admission process

Well that's one take.

I mean, they're not wrong.

Anonymous wrote:How does SAT score compare to HS peers? Are you a full pay family? Most likely sending his scores will only hurt.

Without students background and more information on the LAC it's hard to know.

Yes. It is important to understand that the score are compared against the other applicants and against their high school average. If you SAT is 1400 and your high school average is 1100 then you want the admissions committee to see that.

Anonymous wrote:You are all treating the scores like they are more important than they are. If the score is 20 points below "acceptable" then make sure the rest of the application is better to compensate

I'm really just asking whether to submit or not submit. We would put our best foot forward with the rest of the application regardless of the test score. It's not like if the score were above the 25th percentile, we would hastily assemble the rest of the application.