Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moving over when you see someone approaching from behind is the *safest* thing you can do.
I will never understand how people defend driving slower in the left lane. There literally is no reason, other than to be a bully. You're probably using your phones (even hands free) and think that slowing down makes you a better driver.
Yes, but if you’ve gotten to that point you’ve probably stayed in the left lane too long. Move back after you have passed. It’s really not that hard, people.
I absolutely hate drivers who "leap frog" their way down the road. Right lane, left lane, pass, right lane, left lane, pass.
I rode to Connecticut with a friend who did this the entire way. Nauseating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moving over when you see someone approaching from behind is the *safest* thing you can do.
I will never understand how people defend driving slower in the left lane. There literally is no reason, other than to be a bully. You're probably using your phones (even hands free) and think that slowing down makes you a better driver.
Yes, but if you’ve gotten to that point you’ve probably stayed in the left lane too long. Move back after you have passed. It’s really not that hard, people.
Anonymous wrote:No one is getting ticketed in VA for driving slow in the left lane bc there are left exits, left turns, and left on-ramps. That’s the real reason driving around here is more stressful than a better planned out state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol as if the problem in Virginia isn’t actually everyone going 75 in the left lane and then entitled jerks want to do 85-90.
That’s the real issue here and if you haven’t experienced it I suggest you drive more.
Yes but 75 in left lane and the people coming up at 85-90 --- you have to get out of left lane or you will get a ticket. As I said above troopers will ticket you, not the speeders. The left lane driver is the one that causes accidents not the speeding by itself.
Wrong. Let's do a quick review of Virginia law. Unlike many states, Virginia has made reckless driving a class 1 misdemeanor (that means, a criminal offense) and carries a minimum $250 fine. Going 20 mph over the speed limit or over 85mph is reckless driving. Troopers are going to ticket the reckless driver every time over a piddly $100 fine that won't hold up in court.
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PSA: It’s ILLEGAL to drive 20 mph in most states. it’s considered reckless driving. Left lane is not for driving fast, it’s for passing. After you pass, drive the posted speed limit.
PP, you sound like an ass. It’s drivers like you causing accidents, weaving in and out of traffic. You’re probably a jerk.
You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit even when passing.
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The speed limit is the speed limit.
And it’s illegal to park yourself in the left lane.
I’m going to guess 10/10 times a ticket will be written for the car going 55 in the left lane without moving over rather than the car going 65 in the left lane and moving over when another car approaches from behind.
More simply, this the left lane should be used only for passing.
If you are passing every single car and riding in the passing lane, you are driving waaayyyy to fast.
Anonymous wrote:Moving over when you see someone approaching from behind is the *safest* thing you can do.
I will never understand how people defend driving slower in the left lane. There literally is no reason, other than to be a bully. You're probably using your phones (even hands free) and think that slowing down makes you a better driver.
Anonymous wrote:lol as if the problem in Virginia isn’t actually everyone going 75 in the left lane and then entitled jerks want to do 85-90.
That’s the real issue here and if you haven’t experienced it I suggest you drive more.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many don't know this, but is actually against the law to drive slower in the left lane of ANY multi-lane road in VA. Not just a highway. Not just 66, 495, etc. But ANY roadway divided into 2 or more lanes. Even if there are stop lights.
The law: § 46.2-804.
Whenever any roadway has been divided into clearly marked lanes for traffic, drivers of vehicles shall obey the following:
1. Any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions existing, shall be driven in the lane nearest the right edge or right curb of the highway when such lane is available for travel except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or in preparation for a left turn or where right lanes are reserved for slow-moving traffic as permitted in this section;
It does not mean driving lower than the speed limit. But "the speed of traffic." It's is relative, and "slower traffic keep right" is not about the speed limit. Thankfully, police are actually beginning to crackdown on left lane cruisers.
Driving in the left lane while not actively passing will get you a ticket. Even if going 60 in a 60. If you are going 60 in a 60 and cars are shooting all around you that is reckless driving on your part in VA. You could ticket the speeders but you also can get a ticket. In that case Troopers prefer to ticket the person in the left lane as that is the person creating the dangerous conditions.
I have never, ever heard of someone getting a ticket for going too slow in the left lane. I think you would need to be going well below the speed limit to get one, because that is the only time a cop is going to view you as "creating the dangerous condition." No one ever gets pulled over for going 62 in the left lane when the speed limit is 65, even if it is annoying to other drivers. It's not low enough to justify stopping traffic. Also, you would need to sustain that low speed over a certain distance. Because drivers' speeds fluctuate, they aren't going to ticket someone for dipping below the speed of traffic for a moment unless it actually causes a dangerous situation.
And OP is adamant that this law also applies to any road with more two or more lanes traveling in the same direction. While that may be true, the variable speeds of drivers on non-highways make this virtually impossible to enforce unless, again, a driver is goin signficantly below the speed limit over a sustained distance. Since drivers may slow to enter turning lanes, as they approach lights, etc., the idea that cops will pull over just anyone who is getting passed on the right on any multi-lane road is fantasy.
For the record, I don't go slow in the hammer lane (as my DH likes to call it) and I get annoyed with slow drivers in this lane as well. However, I view it as an inevitability and find safe ways to get around these drivers, or are patient until a safe pass is available to me. If you are getting so upset about this phenomenon that you are posting long screeds about it online, complete with references and illustrations, my guess is that you have a road rage issue and that actually poses a much bigger threat to me than the occasional slow driver in the left lane. I find those irritating, whereas I feel my well being is threatened by the rageful drivers I sometimes encounter, rapidly changing lanes, failing to signal, tailgating, and speeding. Drivers like this cause way more accidents than the occasional slow driver in the wrong lane, which is why cops rightfully focus on speeders and aggressive drivers when they ticket.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol as if the problem in Virginia isn’t actually everyone going 75 in the left lane and then entitled jerks want to do 85-90.
That’s the real issue here and if you haven’t experienced it I suggest you drive more.
Yes but 75 in left lane and the people coming up at 85-90 --- you have to get out of left lane or you will get a ticket. As I said above troopers will ticket you, not the speeders. The left lane driver is the one that causes accidents not the speeding by itself.
Wrong. Let's do a quick review of Virginia law. Unlike many states, Virginia has made reckless driving a class 1 misdemeanor (that means, a criminal offense) and carries a minimum $250 fine. Going 20 mph over the speed limit or over 85mph is reckless driving. Troopers are going to ticket the reckless driver every time over a piddly $100 fine that won't hold up in court.
+1
PSA: It’s ILLEGAL to drive 20 mph in most states. it’s considered reckless driving. Left lane is not for driving fast, it’s for passing. After you pass, drive the posted speed limit.
PP, you sound like an ass. It’s drivers like you causing accidents, weaving in and out of traffic. You’re probably a jerk.
You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit even when passing.
+1
The speed limit is the speed limit.
And it’s illegal to park yourself in the left lane.
I’m going to guess 10/10 times a ticket will be written for the car going 55 in the left lane without moving over rather than the car going 65 in the left lane and moving over when another car approaches from behind.
More simply, this the left lane should be used only for passing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many don't know this, but is actually against the law to drive slower in the left lane of ANY multi-lane road in VA. Not just a highway. Not just 66, 495, etc. But ANY roadway divided into 2 or more lanes. Even if there are stop lights.
The law: § 46.2-804.
Whenever any roadway has been divided into clearly marked lanes for traffic, drivers of vehicles shall obey the following:
1. Any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions existing, shall be driven in the lane nearest the right edge or right curb of the highway when such lane is available for travel except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or in preparation for a left turn or where right lanes are reserved for slow-moving traffic as permitted in this section;
It does not mean driving lower than the speed limit. But "the speed of traffic." It's is relative, and "slower traffic keep right" is not about the speed limit. Thankfully, police are actually beginning to crackdown on left lane cruisers.
PSA: You are a JERK. You are the one causing all the accidents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol as if the problem in Virginia isn’t actually everyone going 75 in the left lane and then entitled jerks want to do 85-90.
That’s the real issue here and if you haven’t experienced it I suggest you drive more.
Yes but 75 in left lane and the people coming up at 85-90 --- you have to get out of left lane or you will get a ticket. As I said above troopers will ticket you, not the speeders. The left lane driver is the one that causes accidents not the speeding by itself.
Wrong. Let's do a quick review of Virginia law. Unlike many states, Virginia has made reckless driving a class 1 misdemeanor (that means, a criminal offense) and carries a minimum $250 fine. Going 20 mph over the speed limit or over 85mph is reckless driving. Troopers are going to ticket the reckless driver every time over a piddly $100 fine that won't hold up in court.
+1
PSA: It’s ILLEGAL to drive 20 mph in most states. it’s considered reckless driving. Left lane is not for driving fast, it’s for passing. After you pass, drive the posted speed limit.
PP, you sound like an ass. It’s drivers like you causing accidents, weaving in and out of traffic. You’re probably a jerk.
You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit even when passing.
+1
The speed limit is the speed limit.
And it’s illegal to park yourself in the left lane.
I’m going to guess 10/10 times a ticket will be written for the car going 55 in the left lane without moving over rather than the car going 65 in the left lane and moving over when another car approaches from behind.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol as if the problem in Virginia isn’t actually everyone going 75 in the left lane and then entitled jerks want to do 85-90.
That’s the real issue here and if you haven’t experienced it I suggest you drive more.
Yes but 75 in left lane and the people coming up at 85-90 --- you have to get out of left lane or you will get a ticket. As I said above troopers will ticket you, not the speeders. The left lane driver is the one that causes accidents not the speeding by itself.
Wrong. Let's do a quick review of Virginia law. Unlike many states, Virginia has made reckless driving a class 1 misdemeanor (that means, a criminal offense) and carries a minimum $250 fine. Going 20 mph over the speed limit or over 85mph is reckless driving. Troopers are going to ticket the reckless driver every time over a piddly $100 fine that won't hold up in court.
+1
PSA: It’s ILLEGAL to drive 20 mph in most states. it’s considered reckless driving. Left lane is not for driving fast, it’s for passing. After you pass, drive the posted speed limit.
PP, you sound like an ass. It’s drivers like you causing accidents, weaving in and out of traffic. You’re probably a jerk.
You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit even when passing.
+1
The speed limit is the speed limit.