Anonymous wrote:There is lot of therapy info on youtube. We use that in addition to the 1x per month we can afford.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't blame them for not bothering with insurance. I had a plan that caused weeks of back and forth between me, my provider, and insurance. The end result was the claim was denied because of an undisclosed rule that anything over 30 minutes would not be reimbursed and my appointments were 45 minutes long. Why would providers spend their time with this crap when they could use it to see patients?

This.

After a similar experience I have a newfound understanding of how awful our health care system is. Providers have to hire people to deal with this stuff. With the low reimbursements for therapists I just can't blame them for not taking insurance.

you know which country offers good therapists through insurance? the one where unicorns live aka it doesn't exist
i can tell you there are plenty of barely mediocre ones oon....

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Honey people on private insurance plans also pay out of pocket "for a reason", that is the whole point of this thread

Look, it’s the condescending term of endearment poster, jumping all over people while having failed to understand the pp (as usual).

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Honey people on private insurance plans also pay out of pocket "for a reason", that is the whole point of this thread

Look, it’s the condescending term of endearment poster, jumping all over people while having failed to understand the pp (as usual).

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Anonymous wrote:I don't blame them for not bothering with insurance. I had a plan that caused weeks of back and forth between me, my provider, and insurance. The end result was the claim was denied because of an undisclosed rule that anything over 30 minutes would not be reimbursed and my appointments were 45 minutes long. Why would providers spend their time with this crap when they could use it to see patients?

This.

After a similar experience I have a newfound understanding of how awful our health care system is. Providers have to hire people to deal with this stuff. With the low reimbursements for therapists I just can't blame them for not taking insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Honey people on private insurance plans also pay out of pocket "for a reason", that is the whole point of this thread

Anonymous wrote:By the time you add in (Metro DC $) office space along with either a billing company or a secretary, that $250 an hour doesn't go so far.

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Honey people on private insurance plans also pay out of pocket "for a reason", that is the whole point of this thread

Literally wasn't what I was talking about. Maybe you should read the post I replied to.

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Honey people on private insurance plans also pay out of pocket "for a reason", that is the whole point of this thread

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).

So you want the government deciding who gets care? No thanks. I have Tricare and pay out of pocket for a reason.

Anonymous wrote:Whenever the issue of health care reform comes up and people advocate for single payer and some libertarian type invariably comes along and mutters about not wanting the government making decisions about your health care, I like to point out that I'd much rather have a government bureaucrat doing it than an insurance adjuster trying to make a bonus in a company trying to make a profit. Government would just be the lesser of the evils.

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Anonymous wrote:Because if therapists were all covered by insurance, nearly every American would be in therapy every week. The best way they can ration it is by making it not covered by insurance.

In other words, you believe the best way to ration therapy for children is based on who can pay for it. I disagree. I think this system excludes the children who most need the therapy. And society pays the costs. I think we could provide that care, but we are not willing to pay for it though premiums or taxes.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion that "nearly every American would be in therapy every week". That's absurd. Most people can't/won't make the time for a weekly appointment. A not insignificant portion of the population is uninterested in therapy (some may actually need it, many do not).