Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

I was told my kid would be pulled out for ELC at Rock View ES in 4th grade next year. They met the lottery requirements but weren't selected.

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Anonymous wrote:Bingo! No one is actually getting enrichment when all other kids in the same grade are getting the same.

It is the way MCPS made the parents, like you, feel a little bit better even though your 99%-tile kid was not picked due to lottery

On the other hand, MCPS got credits, for equity, by saying "Number of kids received enrichment increased from 20% to 80%"

Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

We have a local CES at a moderately low-farm school. The top 15% would roughly be the population of the CES class, but because it's an equity lottery there ends up being many kids below the 92% who are eligible. Mostly this means that kids who need this the most get passed over.

Just remember that high achievement does not equal enrichment need, though one can assume some significant correlation. There are those highly able who are not in environments that tend to support that high ability such that achievement is at a similar level to those with similar ability in a more supportive environment, which would include more highly-manageable cohorts. This ability-related need is why the "equity lottery" is in place, though one might suggest better identification mechanisms than the ones MCPS employs.

Of course, if MoCo funded and MCPS implemented the programs with seats enough actually to meet the need, there would not need to be a lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:The Enriched Literacy Curriculum will be offered at all schools next year in 4th and 5th grade to students who demonstrate a need for enrichment, except for students enrolled in dual language programs.

This doesn’t really make sense.

The issue with dual language schools is the schedule. Essentially, students spend 2 hours of instructional time learning in each language (recess/lunch and specials consume the rest of the time throughout the day). In the dual language (TWI) schools, math is taught primarily in English in 4th grade. This is one hour of the two hour English time block. That leaves one hour. In this one hour, english teachers are responsible for teaching and assessing reading, writing, and social studies. Additionally, the TWI schools follow a different instructional plan than the other schools (it’s known as the “BUF,” Biliteracy Unit Framework.) There just isn’t time allotted in the TWI daily schedule to add an additional program.

How do they do it (if at all) in one-way immersion programs?

May depend on the program. Mandarin/Chinese should have regular ELC because it's partial immersion -- only math & science are delivered in the target language. French immersion has to do a lot of their own curriculum building, and they've identified texts, etc., to try to emulate the ELC paradigm in the target language. Spanish one-way (full) immersion tends to have more centrally-supported third-party curricular materials on which they rely (they are more widely available and cheaper in the US), but may also have to come up with some of their own to accomplish a likeness of ELC. Students in the schools who are not in the immersion programs would take the normal MCPS English ELC, though that may have been delayed a year behind the rest of the full ELC rollout.

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Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

So I heard that in my daughters school this year they had departmentalized the reading and math so that all the ELC kids could be in one class together. Next year apparently the ELC kids will get enrichment on small groups

My kids school the ELC and CM students just rotate to the appropriate teacher(s) for Reading/Writing and Math class.

Are they still going to have compacted math next year? When do we find out if our children would get into cm

Neither the ELC nor CM curriculum are changing next year. If there is problem or concern with the implementation or instruction of either, speak with your school’s Reading Specialist, SDT, and/or Principal.

Anonymous wrote:Bingo! No one is actually getting enrichment when all other kids in the same grade are getting the same.

It is the way MCPS made the parents, like you, feel a little bit better even though your 99%-tile kid was not picked due to lottery

On the other hand, MCPS got credits, for equity, by saying "Number of kids received enrichment increased from 20% to 80%"

Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

We have a local CES at a moderately low-farm school. The top 15% would roughly be the population of the CES class, but because it's an equity lottery there ends up being many kids below the 92% who are eligible. Mostly this means that kids who need this the most get passed over.

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Anonymous wrote:The Enriched Literacy Curriculum will be offered at all schools next year in 4th and 5th grade to students who demonstrate a need for enrichment, except for students enrolled in dual language programs.

This doesn’t really make sense.

The issue with dual language schools is the schedule. Essentially, students spend 2 hours of instructional time learning in each language (recess/lunch and specials consume the rest of the time throughout the day). In the dual language (TWI) schools, math is taught primarily in English in 4th grade. This is one hour of the two hour English time block. That leaves one hour. In this one hour, english teachers are responsible for teaching and assessing reading, writing, and social studies. Additionally, the TWI schools follow a different instructional plan than the other schools (it’s known as the “BUF,” Biliteracy Unit Framework.) There just isn’t time allotted in the TWI daily schedule to add an additional program.

How do they do it (if at all) in one-way immersion programs?

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Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

So I heard that in my daughters school this year they had departmentalized the reading and math so that all the ELC kids could be in one class together. Next year apparently the ELC kids will get enrichment on small groups

My kids school the ELC and CM students just rotate to the appropriate teacher(s) for Reading/Writing and Math class.

Are they still going to have compacted math next year? When do we find out if our children would get into cm

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is why people are so willing to pay big bucks to live where there are no poor kids- so the whole class is supposedly at a certain level and more oriented to learning. I feel for the kids who just can’t read but making everyone learn together seems like a disaster for all!! Why don’t they stream all kids for English and math. Everyone learns with other kids at their level within their school.

Based on some comments on the following thread, "enrichment" is also offered in middle school - by reading a few novels in history class: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1151581.page

Does this have more info ?
https://www.mccpta.org/curriculum

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Anonymous wrote:We have been told our DS will get enrichment with all the other kids in their class. What I take this to mean is - my kid will not being getting enrichment since there are so many kids in their school who as so far behind in reading. It seems designed to fail!!

Do some MCPS ES (non - CES) pull out kids for enrichment to separate class rooms? If so, how can we tell which ones they are?

So I heard that in my daughters school this year they had departmentalized the reading and math so that all the ELC kids could be in one class together. Next year apparently the ELC kids will get enrichment on small groups

My kids school the ELC and CM students just rotate to the appropriate teacher(s) for Reading/Writing and Math class.