Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:25
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OP has noted the schools - someone else came up with the UGA/Wisco example.
Yes it's UGA 39k
Wisconsin 61k
OK, you didn't say "this is OP"
this really should be a discussion of the pros and cons of the 2 schools, then. Help us figure out why Wisco would be worth $240K all in?
Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:24
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:80k put into a Roth IRA before age 25 would pretty much secure the kids retirement.
Maybe but it’s pretty hard to do
Hard and actually not possible.
Roth IRA contribution this year is limited to $7000– and there has to be at least $7000 of earned income by the Roth IRA holder.
So if your kid is earning seven grand in 2024-then you can make that contribution into an account and their name.
You cannot just put 80k into an account!
So use that 80K to fund a Roth IRA yearly before 30, and once they get a full-time job, use it to fully fund a 401K.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:24
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:But if a person going to college has a Roth IRA, wouldn't their non-merit aid offer take that into account?
(Meaning, when they be forced to use it for college?)
no, both parents and students have a small amount of income that is "forgiven" before the start counting it as available. For students, it's about 12-15K? Something in there. A kid making 10k is not harmed in any way.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:24
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:We are turning down $20k/year in merit. While. the schools are considered “overlaps”, and I think that for some programs they are, for DC’s major and career interests the school that didn’t offer merit has a much better reputation and recruitment. It’s hard because DC could do a lot with that money. But at the real risk of starting their career in a position far behind their peers.
What schools
Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:21
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on how that 80k looks in your family budget.
This 100%
There is no "magical right answer". We let our kid turn down $40K merit per year and attend a similar (slightly higher ranked if that matter) but somewhat better fit for our kid (with the intangibles, like ECs and the type of student). Both schools were $85K+/year. So we pay $40K extra each year. However it's a blip on our financial radar, and the money is already in the 529 with plenty more for grad school.
If that extra $40K meant debt for our kid or us, then they'd be at the cheaper school
What is your hhi?
700K. But our NW puts us well into being UHNW (the 529 were fully funded for $85K undergrad and grad school if desired prior to becoming UHNW).
And yes, our kid is well aware how privileged they are. They know that 99%+ of kids would have been attending the school with merit (they are very similar schools academically, but socially and for all opportunities and location, my kid chose the much better fit for them school)
Anonymous
04/14/2024 16:14
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
We are turning down $20k/year in merit. While. the schools are considered “overlaps”, and I think that for some programs they are, for DC’s major and career interests the school that didn’t offer merit has a much better reputation and recruitment. It’s hard because DC could do a lot with that money. But at the real risk of starting their career in a position far behind their peers.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 15:41
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
I would 100% choose the less expensive option if both are equal in all other ways. Seriously. Not everyone has that much money to burn.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 15:39
Subject: Re:Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
if you invest the difference for them,that's about 1,247,567. 76 when they retire.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 15:35
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OP has noted the schools - someone else came up with the UGA/Wisco example.
Yes it's UGA 39k
Wisconsin 61k
Anonymous
04/14/2024 12:11
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
I don’t think OP has noted the schools - someone else came up with the UGA/Wisco example.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 12:10
Subject: Re:Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:We did for 40k. It does give me heartburn but the schools were not equal. Small pretty good SLAC vs. top SLAC. It was doable financially.
We are in this place now, but it sounds like a step down. Pretty good SLACs (T30-50) vs. smaller and less well known/resourced LACs (70-115), 40+k/year difference. Doable, but definitely not a no-brainer for us. Heartburn, indeed.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 11:59
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to think of two schools that are truly “equal” where one would be 85k and the other would be 65k with merit.
Wisconsin 61k
UGA about 38k w merit
In general, I think if it’s exactly the same, you go for the cheaper option. But with for example Wisconsin and UGA I feel like they are similar but not the same. They are in different regional locations, they might have different majors that are strong/most popular, different percentages of Greek life participation, maybe different industries with ties to the schools and locations for alumni. Depending on your kid and what they want to do and how they envision their college experience, I could see one school being their preference over the other.
What would be the reasons for your kid to pick Wisconsin over UGA? And to decide if it’s 80K worth of difference, would it be worth it to your family to give up the alternative of what could be done with that money (i.e. money for grad school, money for your kid’s housing down payment etc.)?
If he wants Wisconsin we will pay. If he's undecided then I think makes sense to do so UGA. They're very similar for business. Neither direct admit, similar Greek life. UGA has two
Tries to get into business school. Wisconsin has one.
Anonymous
04/14/2024 11:51
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m struggling to think of two schools that are truly “equal” where one would be 85k and the other would be 65k with merit.
Wisconsin 61k
UGA about 38k w merit
In general, I think if it’s exactly the same, you go for the cheaper option. But with for example Wisconsin and UGA I feel like they are similar but not the same. They are in different regional locations, they might have different majors that are strong/most popular, different percentages of Greek life participation, maybe different industries with ties to the schools and locations for alumni. Depending on your kid and what they want to do and how they envision their college experience, I could see one school being their preference over the other.
What would be the reasons for your kid to pick Wisconsin over UGA? And to decide if it’s 80K worth of difference, would it be worth it to your family to give up the alternative of what could be done with that money (i.e. money for grad school, money for your kid’s housing down payment etc.)?
Anonymous
04/14/2024 11:20
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
But if a person going to college has a Roth IRA, wouldn't their non-merit aid offer take that into account?
(Meaning, when they be forced to use it for college?)
(Meaning, when they be forced to use it for college?)
Anonymous
04/14/2024 11:15
Subject: Is 20k a year less a reason to choose the cheaper school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:80k put into a Roth IRA before age 25 would pretty much secure the kids retirement.
Maybe but it’s pretty hard to do
Hard and actually not possible.
Roth IRA contribution this year is limited to $7000– and there has to be at least $7000 of earned income by the Roth IRA holder.
So if your kid is earning seven grand in 2024-then you can make that contribution into an account and their name.
You cannot just put 80k into an account!
Probably why she said by age 25 and not by age 18.
My kids put as much into a roth as they earn, and have since they were 14. You start now and give the kid the money to put into their roth. And this goes up every year, lately by about 500 a year so by the time they're 23, 24, 25, there's every chance they could be putting 10k in a year. And maybe it takes til they're 27 to shift all 80k into the roth? So what. That money has grown since then. They can leave the extra to grow in this 529 for their own kids. You get your kid's retirement started and set on autopilot and they're own kids college fund sitting on autopilot for 30 years, and that changes a person's financial trajectory .. far more than the small difference in name brand of college. NPV, people!