Anonymous wrote:It's sad to see all the anti labor, anti union ranting on here. In the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s (the era when everything was better, right? traditional working class values?) paid breaks were standard. People worked a lot less and made more in real dollars.

?? All the people who supported unions etc in the 60s then became anti-labor anti union managers in the 80s. Don’t you remember this?? When these Gen Z people get off their parents payroll and have to pay for their costs on their own, they’ll be as anti union as the rest of them.

Elder millennial middle manager with a boomer boss—take as many breaks as you need. I am organized and efficient enough to know what you’re getting done and what’s not getting done. I will make sure you do your work but if you need a midday nap to get it done, I give zero craps.

Anonymous wrote:I was just complaining to my husband about my Gen Z colleagues (we’re older millennials). Not only do they have a very irreverent approach to work - no respect for hierarchy, no sense of urgency, no proactive problem solving - they ask a million questions instead of just doing stuff. Very aggravating.

Remember when people complained about you all? The millennials?

At a company presentation, a millennial said all the detail work could be given to older workers because millennials like new and fresh work. This did not go over with the older folks.

Then we found out that this “speaker” was presenting because daddy owned the company and was standing in the back of the room.

The real problem is young people have a lot to learn, and that’s normal. Every generation thinks the one below them has problems.

This is disguised ageism.

*golf

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't the work day used to be 9-5, inclusive of lunch? I'm an older millennial/young Gen X, and I've put in the unpaid time to get the experience and position myself for more opportunities, but I don't look down on those who can't or won't do that. We really should respect the balance of work and personal time.

The boomers made a song lamenting the 9-5, which meant they were actually paid for lunch (3 🍸 s), so I hardly think Gen Z pushing back against the hourly creep is unwarranted.

We will see more of this, since Gen Z fully understands that working hard and producing results just results in more work, and that promotions and pay raises go to the boss’s mini-me, rather than the workers pulling long hours and getting things done.

Boomers never worked 9-5 - my hours were 830 to 645 with a 15 minute lunch so a good 10 hour work day. In busy times I hit 40 hours by Wed

Only people working those hours were high paid executives, who counted gold games as “work”

Anonymous wrote:I was just complaining to my husband about my Gen Z colleagues (we’re older millennials). Not only do they have a very irreverent approach to work - no respect for hierarchy, no sense of urgency, no proactive problem solving - they ask a million questions instead of just doing stuff. Very aggravating.

Sounds like you both work for crap employers that can’t attract talent.

We have plenty of Gen Z employees like you describe but we also have plenty of excellent ones. The bad ones get weeded out over time and the good ones advance, same as what happened in our generation.

Anonymous wrote:It's sad to see all the anti labor, anti union ranting on here. In the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s (the era when everything was better, right? traditional working class values?) paid breaks were standard. People worked a lot less and made more in real dollars.

I thought paid breaks were still standard? Surprised to hear they aren’t. They certainly should be, especially if they are mandated.

Good for Gen Z. Burn it down.

I had a 8.5 hour day, with 2 15 minute breaks and a 30 min lunch break. I typically had lunch at my desk — so, 1 of the 15 min breaks, and did my lunch break at the end of the day — which was fine with my supervisor as long as I was reachable. I’m not Gen Z.

Eh… Millennials complained about the same thing when they were that age. I think it’s more the age and the bottom of the pyramid existence that is at the root of whining. Then people become Director Level……..

-signed Gen X

I'm a part time Fed and work 6 hours which breaks down to 5.5 hours of work and a paid 30 min break (or two 15 min breaks). I was pleasantly surprised when I started... I had assumed I'd be working 6 hours and have an unpaid 30 min break.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't the work day used to be 9-5, inclusive of lunch? I'm an older millennial/young Gen X, and I've put in the unpaid time to get the experience and position myself for more opportunities, but I don't look down on those who can't or won't do that. We really should respect the balance of work and personal time.

The boomers made a song lamenting the 9-5, which meant they were actually paid for lunch (3 🍸 s), so I hardly think Gen Z pushing back against the hourly creep is unwarranted.

We will see more of this, since Gen Z fully understands that working hard and producing results just results in more work, and that promotions and pay raises go to the boss’s mini-me, rather than the workers pulling long hours and getting things done.

Boomers never worked 9-5 - my hours were 830 to 645 with a 15 minute lunch so a good 10 hour work day. In busy times I hit 40 hours by Wed

It's sad to see all the anti labor, anti union ranting on here. In the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s (the era when everything was better, right? traditional working class values?) paid breaks were standard. People worked a lot less and made more in real dollars.

I blink my eyes 👀 the staff is gone.

Anonymous wrote:Didn't the work day used to be 9-5, inclusive of lunch? I'm an older millennial/young Gen X, and I've put in the unpaid time to get the experience and position myself for more opportunities, but I don't look down on those who can't or won't do that. We really should respect the balance of work and personal time.

The boomers made a song lamenting the 9-5, which meant they were actually paid for lunch (3 🍸 s), so I hardly think Gen Z pushing back against the hourly creep is unwarranted.

We will see more of this, since Gen Z fully understands that working hard and producing results just results in more work, and that promotions and pay raises go to the boss’s mini-me, rather than the workers pulling long hours and getting things done.