Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:24
Subject: Re:Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.
Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.
Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.
Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.
Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.
But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.
That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.
The media was hyping Barbie in the exact same way. Also overrated?
Absolutely!
Barbie was a campy movie that was a bit too long and preachy. By the end of the movie, I thought Barbie was a self-centered jerk who treated Ken like trash. And I’m feminist.
Well, yeah, that was a point of the movie...neither extreme is acceptable.
Yeah. Talk about missing the point. An imbalance of the sexes either way will always look this way...that was the theme.
I feel like people didn't even see the same movie as I did when they say stuff like the first pp.
And Oppenheimer was amazing from a technical, storytelling, and acting perspective.
Esp on IMAX. Way worth the hype.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:17
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel that way about Barbie.
Barbie was definitely overhyped and overrated.
America’s speech was the most basic, stereotypical diatribe ever recorded on film, yet the media told us it was brave and groundbreaking.
+1. America’s speech insulted my intelligence.
I liked the first part of the movie, thought bits of it were clever and funny, but to me America was doing sitcom work, and the second half felt really messy. Agree about the speech: It was really cliche and dumb.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:16
Subject: Re:Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.
Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.
Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.
Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.
Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.
But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.
That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.
The media was hyping Barbie in the exact same way. Also overrated?
Absolutely!
Barbie was a campy movie that was a bit too long and preachy. By the end of the movie, I thought Barbie was a self-centered jerk who treated Ken like trash. And I’m feminist.
Well, yeah, that was a point of the movie...neither extreme is acceptable.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 14:58
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel that way about Barbie.
Barbie was definitely overhyped and overrated.
America’s speech was the most basic, stereotypical diatribe ever recorded on film, yet the media told us it was brave and groundbreaking.
+1. America’s speech insulted my intelligence.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 14:54
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel that way about Barbie.
Barbie was definitely overhyped and overrated.
America’s speech was the most basic, stereotypical diatribe ever recorded on film, yet the media told us it was brave and groundbreaking.
+1 Barbie was a terrible mess of a movie. It was truly awful. The only reason I think it did so well was because audiences were craving to go out to theaters after Covid and to see a Blonde woman in a leading role. That’s not PC, but I think it reflects reality. We’ve been inundated with everyone but Blondes for the last decade and we miss seeing them on screen, at least this brunette does.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 14:06
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
It was boring. In the beginning it was really hard to tell the characters apart. Everyone looks the same.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 13:59
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t like Christopher Nolan movies, so I agree with you.
So you didn’t like Inception? That is one of my all time favorite movies.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 13:56
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:No.
We get it. You have the attention span of an ant and have consumed Marvel trash over the last 20 years. Honestly, Black Panther is probably the worst, most overrated Oscar winning movie of all time. So horrible. They literally had people screaming like apes in the movie that was 99% CGI and clowns running around everywhere shooting lasers. So infantile. Ok for junk food entertainment, but no where close to being a serious move that should have been Oscar worthy.
Black Panther won Oscars for original score, costume design, and production design.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 12:15
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
I don’t like Christopher Nolan movies, so I agree with you.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 10:06
Subject: Re:Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.
Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.
Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.
Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.
Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.
But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.
Because DiVerSiTy!!!!
How dare a movie with white males win best picture! Honestly, it is as mindless as that.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 10:04
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
No.
We get it. You have the attention span of an ant and have consumed Marvel trash over the last 20 years. Honestly, Black Panther is probably the worst, most overrated Oscar winning movie of all time. So horrible. They literally had people screaming like apes in the movie that was 99% CGI and clowns running around everywhere shooting lasers. So infantile. Ok for junk food entertainment, but no where close to being a serious move that should have been Oscar worthy.
We get it. You have the attention span of an ant and have consumed Marvel trash over the last 20 years. Honestly, Black Panther is probably the worst, most overrated Oscar winning movie of all time. So horrible. They literally had people screaming like apes in the movie that was 99% CGI and clowns running around everywhere shooting lasers. So infantile. Ok for junk food entertainment, but no where close to being a serious move that should have been Oscar worthy.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:48
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
The thought of devoting 3 hours to watch it seems daunting. I'm saving it for a rainy Sunday, but everyone I know who has seen it says it is good.
I try to watch all the Best Picture nominees each year before the awards but this one escaped me. I was afraid if I forced myself to watch it before the awards show, I'd be negatively influenced.
I try to watch all the Best Picture nominees each year before the awards but this one escaped me. I was afraid if I forced myself to watch it before the awards show, I'd be negatively influenced.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:17
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
I’ll say it: Killers of the Flower Moon was also overhyped and overrated.
It was at times slow and boring!
It was at times slow and boring!
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:16
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
Anonymous wrote:But was it better than The Holdovers because that is a classic.
I loved The Holdovers and would have preferred it to win over Oppenheimer, but Oppenheimer was so much more ambitious and was telling an important historical story, and the Oscars usually go for movies like that.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 08:45
Subject: Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?
But was it better than The Holdovers because that is a classic.