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Anonymous wrote:As the parent of a current 10th grader who is more likely to major in math than rush a sorority, honors housing freshman year seems like point enough. What am I missing?

Research opportunities, special honors math classes for students who want to start with rigorous, proof-based math instead of taking engineering math their first two years, access to the best teachers in the department, etc.

Ohio State, UWisconsin, UGA, UMD all have honors math classes which lead to being able to take grad classes and do research earlier, but some require BC scores as they start with multivariable

And the one-on-one opportunities from the honors tutorial college at Ohio University is gold for graduate school

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Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30, including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

Thanks. No merit aid here (yet). Not sure any aid is forthcoming. Deciding between Michigan and Penn State Honors.

Look at the coursework at PSU honors. The good programs have coursework not just perks.

Unless the job placement of PSU honors is demonstrably superior to non honors…not sure why the coursework matters.

A social environment than brings high-achievers together is good. Think of the difference between students in AP classes as a large public school vs those in on-level classes

Anonymous wrote:As the parent of a current 10th grader who is more likely to major in math than rush a sorority, honors housing freshman year seems like point enough. What am I missing?

Research opportunities, special honors math classes for students who want to start with rigorous, proof-based math instead of taking engineering math their first two years, access to the best teachers in the department, etc.

Ohio State, UWisconsin, UGA, UMD all have honors math classes which lead to being able to take grad classes and do research earlier, but some require BC scores as they start with multivariable

Most of these posts are just clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30 including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

A good friend chose PSU honors over MIT, but it was 100% a money decision.

Honors housing at Alabama is the bomb - like a luxury apartment, even for freshmen. Roll Tide!

Anonymous wrote:I’d do Penn State over Michigan just on cost. Assuming you’re OOS for both. If the honors college is good, that’s a bonus.

I’d choose Mich over Penn state on employer recruitment alone.

The Burnett Honor's College at University of Central Florida is very good. You have priority registration (for a whole year in advance), special dorms (apartment style with a kitchen and private bedrooms), honor's advisors, and honors classes (which are smaller than regular classes and not necessarily harder). Some of the honor's classes are not just academic, but fun and interesting like wine tasting. They also provide special internship and scholarship opportunities for honors kids and many fun activities to bring the honors kids together. While I do not see BHC listed as a top 10 honors college on any list, I have only heard positive things about it - so definitely look into it if University of Central Florida is at all on your radar.

I’d do Penn State over Michigan just on cost. Assuming you’re OOS for both. If the honors college is good, that’s a bonus.

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Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30, including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

Thanks. No merit aid here (yet). Not sure any aid is forthcoming. Deciding between Michigan and Penn State Honors.

Look at the coursework at PSU honors. The good programs have coursework not just perks.

Unless the job placement of PSU honors is demonstrably superior to non honors…not sure why the coursework matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30, including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

Thanks. No merit aid here (yet). Not sure any aid is forthcoming. Deciding between Michigan and Penn State Honors.

Look at the coursework at PSU honors. The good programs have coursework not just perks.

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Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30, including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

Thanks. No merit aid here (yet). Not sure any aid is forthcoming. Deciding between Michigan and Penn State Honors.

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Anonymous wrote:Penn State and the Universities of Oregon, South Carolina, and Kansas are examples of "just fine" flagships that have truly stellar honors colleges/programs.

How so? Please elaborate people

Because your Google is broken?

OP asked for “and why” - so move along if you have nothing to offer, thank you dear

Identifying the programs offers much more value than transcribing those programs' web pages for a perfectly capable adult.

I will try to elaborate the problem.

Folks will say an Honors program is great, but at these flagships, they mostly amount to priority housing, priority registration for classes and some $$$s.

All great perks…however, it’s not like you are at a school within a school. 98% of your classes are just the classes everyone takes, and the “honors” classes are merely general ed classes and sometimes you also are supposed to do a special honors project.

This is why many UMD honors kids decide to drop out of the program (if you believe some UMD people)…the extra work outweighs the benefit and job placement is no different.

When touring Clemson, sounded exactly the same.

So, yell at us to Google it ourselves…but is this really what flagship Honors programs are when it comes down to it?

This.

Anonymous wrote:Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?

Honors programs are a stats grab. If you get and need the merit, that’s one thing. But if full pay, I’d Definitely choose any T30 including UVA and Mich over Penn State.

Which non-honors schools would you Penn State honors program over? UMD? UVA? Michigan? T30 schools?