Anonymous wrote:They tell you they allow books, toys etc but the reality is they don't. Kids are laying there for two hours listening to music. I work at Montessori school.

That is child abuse. I can’t believe parents tolerate this.

Lol at the one poster insisting all preschoolers need naps. I bet you think all kids sleep through the night at 6 months and sleep 12 hours a night, too.

We have spent many years and thousands of dollars battling my child’s sleep. We’ve hired every trainer, seen every specialist doctor, done every test, read every parenting book on sleep. Mine stopped napping at 2. Before that she never took a 2 hour nap even once in her entire life. She’s always been low sleep needs. Some people just are. She’s met or exceeded all developmental milestones and is high energy.

In short, it’s just bizarre that you are so convinced all kids’ sleep needs are the same. Thank you for reaffirming my decision to never have sent her to daycare.

Kids need a nap to function well

If the kid sleeps, LET THEM

Our DCPS requires about 1.5 hours of nap time for pre-K 3 and 4. In practice, it’s more quiet time— they can read books and play quietly on their cots as long as they’re not disturbing other kids.

My kid only napped once her entire prek3 year— and it’s because she was coming down with something, as she had a fever later that same day. So yeah, most kids just play quietly, and it’s not a big deal.

They tell you they allow books, toys etc but the reality is they don't. Kids are laying there for two hours listening to music. I work at Montessori school.

Anonymous wrote:Haha, I am glad I got some nap supporters to speak up. If your child does not nap, get a nanny and stop blaming teachers.

Nobody is blaming teachers. Administrators are responsible, owner/operators, etc. who set policies and staffing. I appreciate all the people who are willing to speak up for little kids who can’t speak for themselves - it’s not “blaming,” it’s looking after your kid and what they need.

Anonymous wrote:Haha, I am glad I got some nap supporters to speak up. If your child does not nap, get a nanny and stop blaming teachers.

Oh my goodness. Grow up.

Haha, I am glad I got some nap supporters to speak up. If your child does not nap, get a nanny and stop blaming teachers.

Nap time is quiet time

The young human brain needs naps to function
In most states is mandatory at least 2 hour nap

Every child sleeps.
Young children must take naps during the day to function well.

If the Daycare says they sleep then they need the nap

Nap time is quiet time

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Anonymous wrote:You need to find somewhere that does not do 2 hours. 2 hours is unreasonable for 3+ age because while some kids will sleep that long, the ones that don’t (or whose parents want them to be woken earlier) need an alternative other than sitting for an hour, which is not a developmentally appropriate expectation.

Plenty of centers do 30 or 60 mins. Find one of those.

Our pediatrician gladly writes letters for parents who need one stating that their child should be woken up after 30 mins. Kids this age get worse quality sleep if they are up til 9, 10 etc.

Your pediatrician isn’t the one trying to keep the non nappers quiet while the other children are napping.
Find a place that has a non napper room and quit trying to skirt the center policy.

Correct. They are a professional who provides advice in the interest of a child’s health. and they are acting in that capacity. If the center has a bad policy, it’s not the pediatrician’s problem. Nor should it be the children’s. And yes, one person can find a different center but that doesn’t really fix things for anyone else, does it?

It does for the children that need to sleep and are disrupted by little Bobby’s “quiet time” that is anything but.
Ever wonder why these magical centers that caters to all the individual whims and wants of each family that they provide care for are so hard to find?
Because if they exist at all they aren’t able to last very long. It doesn’t work in a group care environment.
Give it a try. Report back at how it goes.

The way it has been done for a long time, still works great. After 30 or 60 minutes, the lights come on. Kids who are awake, play. Kids who want to keep sleeping, keep sleeping. the majority of the big time nappers will easily keep sleeping with the lights on and some noise around them. There’s no need to hold their classmates hostage.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with others op, you won't find a place that doesn't have nap time because it is part of licensing requirements but you do want a place that is flexible. Most will have the children lay for a certain amount of time and then if they are still awake they can read books etc on their mat. most kids do surprisingly adjust to this though it is hard as they get close to kindergarten they are often very done with it.

We still did quiet time at home which helped. our routine stayed the same. Lunch then quiet time. They don't have to stay in bed at home during quiet time but it still helped reinforce there is a restful time after lunch.

Also to the parents blaming the teacher for cranky kids. Surely you can understand that kids are typically more exhausted by a day at daycare with lots of other kids than weekends at home? There are many kids who need a nap during daycare days and don't nap on the weekends.

Surely you can understand parents do actually spend time with their children at the end of the day and can tell if they need to nap on daycare days?

Many of these parents boast about their kid going to bed at 7, after they pick them up at 5:30 or 6:00. So, they aren't really spending much time with them at all at the end of the day.

Surely you know not every parent with a kid in daycare picks them up after 5? Many get picked up much earlier which is why our daycare like most combines classes at the end of the day (after 3pm), since so many have already gone home. Nobody is picking their kid up at 6pm and has them asleep by 7.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to find somewhere that does not do 2 hours. 2 hours is unreasonable for 3+ age because while some kids will sleep that long, the ones that don’t (or whose parents want them to be woken earlier) need an alternative other than sitting for an hour, which is not a developmentally appropriate expectation.

Plenty of centers do 30 or 60 mins. Find one of those.

Our pediatrician gladly writes letters for parents who need one stating that their child should be woken up after 30 mins. Kids this age get worse quality sleep if they are up til 9, 10 etc.

Your pediatrician isn’t the one trying to keep the non nappers quiet while the other children are napping.
Find a place that has a non napper room and quit trying to skirt the center policy.

Correct. They are a professional who provides advice in the interest of a child’s health. and they are acting in that capacity. If the center has a bad policy, it’s not the pediatrician’s problem. Nor should it be the children’s. And yes, one person can find a different center but that doesn’t really fix things for anyone else, does it?

It does for the children that need to sleep and are disrupted by little Bobby’s “quiet time” that is anything but.
Ever wonder why these magical centers that caters to all the individual whims and wants of each family that they provide care for are so hard to find?
Because if they exist at all they aren’t able to last very long. It doesn’t work in a group care environment.
Give it a try. Report back at how it goes.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with others op, you won't find a place that doesn't have nap time because it is part of licensing requirements but you do want a place that is flexible. Most will have the children lay for a certain amount of time and then if they are still awake they can read books etc on their mat. most kids do surprisingly adjust to this though it is hard as they get close to kindergarten they are often very done with it.

We still did quiet time at home which helped. our routine stayed the same. Lunch then quiet time. They don't have to stay in bed at home during quiet time but it still helped reinforce there is a restful time after lunch.

Also to the parents blaming the teacher for cranky kids. Surely you can understand that kids are typically more exhausted by a day at daycare with lots of other kids than weekends at home? There are many kids who need a nap during daycare days and don't nap on the weekends.

Surely you can understand parents do actually spend time with their children at the end of the day and can tell if they need to nap on daycare days?

Many of these parents boast about their kid going to bed at 7, after they pick them up at 5:30 or 6:00. So, they aren't really spending much time with them at all at the end of the day.

What’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with others op, you won't find a place that doesn't have nap time because it is part of licensing requirements but you do want a place that is flexible. Most will have the children lay for a certain amount of time and then if they are still awake they can read books etc on their mat. most kids do surprisingly adjust to this though it is hard as they get close to kindergarten they are often very done with it.

We still did quiet time at home which helped. our routine stayed the same. Lunch then quiet time. They don't have to stay in bed at home during quiet time but it still helped reinforce there is a restful time after lunch.

Also to the parents blaming the teacher for cranky kids. Surely you can understand that kids are typically more exhausted by a day at daycare with lots of other kids than weekends at home? There are many kids who need a nap during daycare days and don't nap on the weekends.

Surely you can understand parents do actually spend time with their children at the end of the day and can tell if they need to nap on daycare days?

Many of these parents boast about their kid going to bed at 7, after they pick them up at 5:30 or 6:00. So, they aren't really spending much time with them at all at the end of the day.