Anonymous wrote:Solidarity with Jews over what exactly?
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
Anonymous wrote:How many Jewish people have been attacked in the DMV for wearing a star necklace?
If you want to wear a star wear a star. I wear a cross.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Try to be more Jewish rather than performatively wearing something Jewish.
"Performative" is a pejorative term with limited application to Jewish people and practices. It is hard to draw a line between "being performative" and practicing Judaism or just being part of Jewish culture. Ultimately, "performative" is a subjective and negative term, intended to gatekeep more than to encourage meaningful interaction with an ethnic or religious background.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here.
Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.
Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot.
The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out?
Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross.
So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though.
I got your point, but I didn't respond to the stupidest part, the "uncomfortable" comment.
What you're really saying is that you're such a bigot that if your Muslim coworker was wearing a crescent necklace you would be...what? "Uncomfortable" to the point of, again, what? It's an absurd and stupid point. You are talking about "comfort" vs. someone closely held religious belief that does not hurt you.
Be "uncomfortable". It is the tiny, tiny price of living in a free, pluralist society.
DP and Jewish. It doesn't bother me when people wear a crucifix or a crescent. They are free to wear whatever they want as an expression of their faith, the same way I wear my Star of David.
I feel differently about religious symbols in the workplace, like a crucifix hanging on the wall of your office or something. That makes a semi-public space into a religious space in a way that your personal jewelry does not, and I don't particularly care to sit in your office for a meeting with a crucifix hanging over us. I have no basis to feel that way, other than my own gut feeling that there is a difference between the two situations, but that's my 2 cents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here.
Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.
Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot.
The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out?
Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross.
So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though.
I got your point, but I didn't respond to the stupidest part, the "uncomfortable" comment.
What you're really saying is that you're such a bigot that if your Muslim coworker was wearing a crescent necklace you would be...what? "Uncomfortable" to the point of, again, what? It's an absurd and stupid point. You are talking about "comfort" vs. someone closely held religious belief that does not hurt you.
Be "uncomfortable". It is the tiny, tiny price of living in a free, pluralist society.
DP and Jewish. It doesn't bother me when people wear a crucifix or a crescent. They are free to wear whatever they want as an expression of their faith, the same way I wear my Star of David.
I feel differently about religious symbols in the workplace, like a crucifix hanging on the wall of your office or something. That makes a semi-public space into a religious space in a way that your personal jewelry does not, and I don't particularly care to sit in your office for a meeting with a crucifix hanging over us. I have no basis to feel that way, other than my own gut feeling that there is a difference between the two situations, but that's my 2 cents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here.
Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.
Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot.
The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out?
Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross.
So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though.
I got your point, but I didn't respond to the stupidest part, the "uncomfortable" comment.
What you're really saying is that you're such a bigot that if your Muslim coworker was wearing a crescent necklace you would be...what? "Uncomfortable" to the point of, again, what? It's an absurd and stupid point. You are talking about "comfort" vs. someone closely held religious belief that does not hurt you.
Be "uncomfortable". It is the tiny, tiny price of living in a free, pluralist society.
Anonymous wrote:I've always had mine in rotation but the last few months I'm wearing it consistently. It's often tucked into my shirt, and mostly wear it for myself. I have no follow Jews at work and feel sort of lonely in the world right now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here.
Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.
Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot.
The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out?
Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross.
So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though.
Anonymous wrote:Performative religious symbolism is banned in France, where abortion is legal. Different strokes for different folks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons.
That is, of identifying by their religion.
There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses?
And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here.
Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.
Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot.
The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out?
Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross.
So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though.