Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 15:49     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Boston College's SAT average is higher than Notre Dame's? Is that because Notre Dame has so many athletes that brings it scores down?


my kids are at a private in nyc and we have a few very top kids who throw in an app at BC every year because BC has a full ride, no-need, merit scholarship. Some get that and go there. Some get that and decide on HYP anyway, but it's a lot about finances for people who make good money but may be looking at 3 full pay kids in the pipeline.

ND not so much on the radar here. I'm sure it is at the top Catholic HSs like regis and Marymount and Sacred Heart, but not ours.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 15:43     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
No Michigan...
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 15:35     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Boston College's SAT average is higher than Notre Dame's? Is that because Notre Dame has so many athletes that brings it scores down?


Last year's was even higher. I know two kids in class of 2027 that had 1560 and 1540. Very competitive admissions.


We were told not to submit anything under a 35 ACT. My kid thankfully got a 35.


So it's official...stronger students go to Boston College over Notre Dame. I guess that's the difference of being in Boston versus Indiana. It has taken a while, but BC should take pride.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 15:06     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Boston College's SAT average is higher than Notre Dame's? Is that because Notre Dame has so many athletes that brings it scores down?


Last year's was even higher. I know two kids in class of 2027 that had 1560 and 1540. Very competitive admissions.


We were told not to submit anything under a 35 ACT. My kid thankfully got a 35.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 14:46     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Boston College's SAT average is higher than Notre Dame's? Is that because Notre Dame has so many athletes that brings it scores down?


Last year's was even higher. I know two kids in class of 2027 that had 1560 and 1540. Very competitive admissions.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 14:35     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools that didn't make the list:

Columbia (maybe penalized for lying about its data)

Bates
Bowdoin
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Denison
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Grinnell
Johns Hopkins
Lafayette
Lehigh
Michigan
Notre Dame
Rice
Smith
Texas
UVA
UNC
Vanderbilt
Vassar




How did you arrive at that set of those that didn't make the list?


I think because they didn't make the cut of US News' supposedly proprietary list. So by default, any school listed other than the ones on the list, didn't make the cut, and presumably had a lower SAT average.


it sounds like these schools didn’t participate in the survey. US News could have just taken the midpoint in which case most of these schools would have been on the list
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 14:08     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Am I missing something? Boston College's SAT average is higher than Notre Dame's? Is that because Notre Dame has so many athletes that brings it scores down?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 13:24     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools that didn't make the list:

Columbia (maybe penalized for lying about its data)

Bates
Bowdoin
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Denison
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Grinnell
Johns Hopkins
Lafayette
Lehigh
Michigan
Notre Dame
Rice
Smith
Texas
UVA
UNC
Vanderbilt
Vassar




How did you arrive at that set of those that didn't make the list?


I think because they didn't make the cut of US News' supposedly proprietary list. So by default, any school listed other than the ones on the list, didn't make the cut, and presumably had a lower SAT average.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 13:16     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Where is UVA booster?

They would just say that SATs don't mean much and that UVA produced the most Rhodes scholar.


No, she would point out that UVA’s mean is 1470 and that it is inexplicably missing from the list. She would also note that several other top-ranked schools are missing as well.


And they - and anyone really - could just add schools to the list.

Or sit back and criticize the person who did all the work.


Huh? How are posters expected to know what’s missing? What an odd suggestion.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 13:16     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:Schools that didn't make the list:

Columbia (maybe penalized for lying about its data)

Bates
Bowdoin
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Denison
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Grinnell
Johns Hopkins
Lafayette
Lehigh
Michigan
Notre Dame
Rice
Smith
Texas
UVA
UNC
Vanderbilt
Vassar




How did you arrive at that set of those that didn't make the list?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 13:14     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:Does US News use some proprietary data to calculate the average? How does it know everyone's score? The average that it uses in its list is different than what one would expect from the common data sets which show the 25th and 75th percentile. But somehow US News knows the scores themselves?

It isn't surprising you won't see UVA on the list. I'm sure the average scores of those in the 25th percentile are pretty low considering they take in kids from all the counties.

Same thing for Michigan and North Carolina. On average those schools are going to have a much lower SAT average than the private schools.


Average can only be calculated if all scores are known. A median can't be converted to average as they are two different things.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 13:05     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Once Columbia got caught cheating in providing its data (by one of its own math professors!), it opted not to participate anymore with US News and wouldn't share any data.

So that's why it isn't on the list. Who knows what Columbia's real SAT scores are because of their fraudulent behavior.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 12:53     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1560 and still got rejected from Harvard and Penn! [/quote

There's more to an application than a test score.


Thanks genius. Hence the wink emoji
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 12:40     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does US News use some proprietary data to calculate the average? How does it know everyone's score? The average that it uses in its list is different than what one would expect from the common data sets which show the 25th and 75th percentile. But somehow US News knows the scores themselves?

It isn't surprising you won't see UVA on the list. I'm sure the average scores of those in the 25th percentile are pretty low considering they take in kids from all the counties.

Same thing for Michigan and North Carolina. On average those schools are going to have a much lower SAT average than the private schools.


The article states that colleges reported the data to USNews via the annual survey.


Too bad that US News doesn't provide the average for all schools. I wonder why they limit it to only the top 35? Between national universities and selective liberal arts schools they have left out an awful lot of schools that we don't know the averages of.

Johns Hopkins, William and Mary, Georgetown, UVA, UNC, Georgia Tech, etc.


Georgetown requires ALL scores. Every.single.student submits and is in the average. It's why LESS selective schools can have test scores similar because they have so many TO students and only the highest scorers are submitting--the 35-36ACT.

Duh
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2024 12:33     Subject: Highest average SAT scores post-covid of the top 35 colleges as we evolve into a more test required environment
Schools that didn't make the list:

Columbia (maybe penalized for lying about its data)

Bates
Bowdoin
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Denison
Emory
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Grinnell
Johns Hopkins
Lafayette
Lehigh
Michigan
Notre Dame
Rice
Smith
Texas
UVA
UNC
Vanderbilt
Vassar