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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

I don't know what thread you've been reading, but it is not this one. The original post is all about the police presence and how the OP can't get out of his building. I would think that is exactly the response that all of you law and order types want. I haven't written anything close to what you are claiming. Maybe you have confused me with an imaginary figure in your head?

Riiightt. Ok.

“Everything is fine in DC. It’s all just hysteria. Imaginary figures in your head. Charles Allen and his 2018 re-write are completely blameless.”

Does that effectively sum up your view?

Just keep playing that fiddle.

Anonymous wrote:What is the response the not law and order types, presumably Jeff included, want? I’m seriously confused about this distinction he’s making.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

I don't know what thread you've been reading, but it is not this one. The original post is all about the police presence and how the OP can't get out of his building. I would think that is exactly the response that all of you law and order types want. I haven't written anything close to what you are claiming. Maybe you have confused me with an imaginary figure in your head?

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

Whole site is like that. And it’s the unhinged, extremist-type people who post here as much as it is Jeff maintaining this echo-chamber.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Unskilled economic migrants come on in; defund the police (but lie about it); no cash bail; letting protesters/ rioters have “room to destroy”; being nice to Iran and hope Iran respects our weakness; on & on & on.

This post is such a mishmash of uninformed nonsense that it’s impossible to respond to.

Like “room to destroy” — what even is that? Voices in PP’s head?

The reality, of course, is that DC and other cities experienced a lot of peaceful demonstrations and some very minor crime (much of it apparently initiated by off duty cops and oath keepers) during the summer of 2020. Cops responded by beating and shooting peaceful protester with rubber bullets (including my son, who was standing calmly and chanting a few feet from me). Meanwhile the neo-Nazis who flooded DC to march for Trump and beat up random Black people were never manhandled.

But in PP’s world of crazy, DC and other cities were “destroyed” by BLM protesters. There’s no arguing with this kind of nonsense.

Yeah, you’re out of the loop. The Baltimore mayor said protesters should “have room to destroy” and provided a pretty milquetoast police response to the violent protests.

Let me guess, you’re the same person who is very apathetic about CVS’ closing from looting because “they have insurance!”, right?

Sadly, your ilk is driven the policy these days. I know it “feels good” to waste money on violence interruptors that don’t interrupt violence or have USAOs who decline to prosecute 67% of cases (granted we had no crime lab for like 2 years), but the rest of us who choose to live in the city actually have to worry about our cars getting car jacked while our kids are in them. Basically we get to live on planet earth and you get to show off your yard signs in Alexandria and feel virtuous.

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My husband explained to me how the secret service 'solved' the carjacking of the officers protecting Naomi Biden in Georgetown. They did it by assessing every vehicle that had entered Georgetown, and then eliminating suspects one by one. Carjacking CAN be solved. The police could pull all the footage and do detective work. Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm guessing nothing came of OP's friend's carjacking, just like my friend's was never 'solved' despite the jackers using the car in a multi-hit crime spree through the city.

You don’t think they have cameras aimed at his granddaughter’s house?
No offense, but this makes no sense at all. Assuming that somehow the secret service had such a high level of video that they could identify every car that entered Georgetown, how in the world would they know who was in each car? Not to mention the fact that a person who carjacks may arrive in the area in a way other than driving a car tied to themselves. Certainly there is no way that the police can successfully prosecute someone by saying that we saw that your car entered Georgetown and we think you did it? Did they get someone and then do an eyewitness ID, assuming that the carjacker did not wear a mask? Finally, as I am sure you realize, this is a completely unworkable approach for an entire city given the number of cars that could be entering the area where each carjacking occurred and how much manpower it would take. Maybe if the police did absolutely nothing else 24/7?

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

Whole site is like that. And it’s the unhinged, extremist-type people who post here as much as it is Jeff maintaining this echo-chamber.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Unskilled economic migrants come on in; defund the police (but lie about it); no cash bail; letting protesters/ rioters have “room to destroy”; being nice to Iran and hope Iran respects our weakness; on & on & on.

You are ranting about migrants in a thread about a shooting and standoff in the Navy Yard and you think other people are unhinged?

Half the problem with you wackjobs is that you lack even an iota of self-awareness. Today's incident involved a massive police response to a crime resulting in an arrest and no further injuries. Everyone should be happy, both those like me who don't want Black men to be arbitrarily executed and the "call out the national guard" types like yourself. Instead of taking the W, you are stamping your feet and pouting.

I’m not a whack job, but I understand where that poster is coming from. He just aggregated his multiple grievances with the far left into one diatribe.

He’s probably partly liberal to some degree too, but reached his peak and is aghast at how far progressives take things to the left.

Basically, we can’t even fight crime now because the mere mention of jail for car jackers leads to a social justice discussion of the ramifications on local communities and blah blah. Just fking arrest anyone, anyone who commits a violent crime.

Drugs? Legalize em. Prostitution? Whatever as long as it’s regulated and they track pimps or whatever. But violent stuff? Stop vacillating and being so weak. Progressive criminal justice reform only exacerbates crime. Jeff, you should not mock people for caring about the crime epidemic in this town.

I think everyone is in agreement that people who actually commit violent crimes should be arrested and incarcerated. The problem is that the police response in the US is often to go arrest any random minority, jail them for cash bond, and count on time rotting in jail to convince them to plead guilty whether they had anything to do with the crime.

This is why you have, for example, a guy spending a year awaiting trial for murder based on his DNA being found at a scene, but the police didn’t mention — until he FINALLY got a public defender who was new and didn’t just convince him to plead — that multiple other people’s DNA was also found — including two people previously convicted of violent crimes.

The tough on crime types who are against improving and professionalizing policing — including getting rid of the many avowed Nazis currently serving in many departments — aren’t helping to make anyone safer.

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Anonymous wrote:Those section 8 housing projects across from Nats Park (on third base side) behind Capital Street have the worst crime rate in all their projects.

The AG’s office has even sued the housing authority for not enforcing the law on violent crimes, gun crimes, prostitution and gambling. They allow it to fester, grow, and for their citizens to live in a horrible environment. They should be ashamed of how they allow it to exist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-attorney-general-sues-city-housing-authority-over-violence-in-public-housing/2020/06/09/5b2db468-aa69-11ea-868b-93d63cd833b2_story.html

English, please. Do you even live here?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

Whole site is like that. And it’s the unhinged, extremist-type people who post here as much as it is Jeff maintaining this echo-chamber.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Unskilled economic migrants come on in; defund the police (but lie about it); no cash bail; letting protesters/ rioters have “room to destroy”; being nice to Iran and hope Iran respects our weakness; on & on & on.

You are ranting about migrants in a thread about a shooting and standoff in the Navy Yard and you think other people are unhinged?

Half the problem with you wackjobs is that you lack even an iota of self-awareness. Today's incident involved a massive police response to a crime resulting in an arrest and no further injuries. Everyone should be happy, both those like me who don't want Black men to be arbitrarily executed and the "call out the national guard" types like yourself. Instead of taking the W, you are stamping your feet and pouting.

I’m not a whack job, but I understand where that poster is coming from. He just aggregated his multiple grievances with the far left into one diatribe.

He’s probably partly liberal to some degree too, but reached his peak and is aghast at how far progressives take things to the left.

Basically, we can’t even fight crime now because the mere mention of jail for car jackers leads to a social justice discussion of the ramifications on local communities and blah blah. Just fking arrest anyone, anyone who commits a violent crime.

Drugs? Legalize em. Prostitution? Whatever as long as it’s regulated and they track pimps or whatever. But violent stuff? Stop vacillating and being so weak. Progressive criminal justice reform only exacerbates crime. Jeff, you should not mock people for caring about the crime epidemic in this town.

I think everyone is in agreement that people who actually commit violent crimes should be arrested and incarcerated. The problem is that the police response in the US is often to go arrest any random minority, jail them for cash bond, and count on time rotting in jail to convince them to plead guilty whether they had anything to do with the crime.

This is why you have, for example, a guy spending a year awaiting trial for murder based on his DNA being found at a scene, but the police didn’t mention — until he FINALLY got a public defender who was new and didn’t just convince him to plead — that multiple other people’s DNA was also found — including two people previously convicted of violent crimes.

The tough on crime types who are against improving and professionalizing policing — including getting rid of the many avowed Nazis currently serving in many departments — aren’t helping to make anyone safer.

My husband explained to me how the secret service 'solved' the carjacking of the officers protecting Naomi Biden in Georgetown. They did it by assessing every vehicle that had entered Georgetown, and then eliminating suspects one by one. Carjacking CAN be solved. The police could pull all the footage and do detective work. Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm guessing nothing came of OP's friend's carjacking, just like my friend's was never 'solved' despite the jackers using the car in a multi-hit crime spree through the city.

Anonymous wrote:Based on the story in the Wash Post, there was a complaint about an unwanted guest. That suggests to me that these people were in one of the senior apartments with someone they knew (maybe a relative) and then refused to leave. The original call was not for a break in or anything like that, so it sounds like they started off being let in by a resident and then refused to leave.

Anonymous wrote:I live in Navy Yard and heard the helicopters all morning. Obviously an unfortunate incident but involved a dispute within one of the buildings and the necessary police response since the gunman was still out in the community barricaded in a building. In fact, it sounds like from the reporting that the reason this incident happened is because the Housing Authority as policing the building, which is what people on here are complaining that they don't do! A DC employee was shot because he was enforcing the rules to get people who were not supposed to be in that building out. Not sure how that means that DC is not doing its job to police those buildings. Likewise it is common sense that you need more police to stay in the area when the gunman is there. In the case of the carjacking (to which I am entirely sympathetic) there would not be any reason for police to be there hours after the incident if the assailant had immediately fled. It is not the victim's identity that made the difference it is the question of what needs to be done after the initial event.

I've lived in DC a long time and understand the concerns about the rate of crime having gone up lately but I think the blame game here has gotten entirely out of hand. Can we not applaud both the officer who was shot doing his job and the police who were able to arrest the perpetrators here?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

Whole site is like that. And it’s the unhinged, extremist-type people who post here as much as it is Jeff maintaining this echo-chamber.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Unskilled economic migrants come on in; defund the police (but lie about it); no cash bail; letting protesters/ rioters have “room to destroy”; being nice to Iran and hope Iran respects our weakness; on & on & on.

This post is such a mishmash of uninformed nonsense that it’s impossible to respond to.

Like “room to destroy” — what even is that? Voices in PP’s head?

The reality, of course, is that DC and other cities experienced a lot of peaceful demonstrations and some very minor crime (much of it apparently initiated by off duty cops and oath keepers) during the summer of 2020. Cops responded by beating and shooting peaceful protester with rubber bullets (including my son, who was standing calmly and chanting a few feet from me). Meanwhile the neo-Nazis who flooded DC to march for Trump and beat up random Black people were never manhandled.

But in PP’s world of crazy, DC and other cities were “destroyed” by BLM protesters. There’s no arguing with this kind of nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I thought you wanted the police to respond. From what I see on X, the guy is holed up in a building. The police are trying to get him out.

OP is expressing frustration at living in a crime-ravaged community, not at the police themselves. Stop being purposefully obtuse. It’s not cute.

Exactly. And it’s not cute at all. It’s very dickish.

I feel like, and it’s sad i read this site so much that I can parse this out, that Jeff is so progressive, so sure he’s on the side for which “the arc always bends to justice” that he feels it’s okay to glibly retort to annoying who posts here advocating for strict on crime penalties. Like of course we should all be proponents for weak sht like “violence interruptors”.

I own a bunch of property in DC and basically know this city better than anyone. Trust me. I’ve been here since Kim’s karate commercials and fking Hechingers sold tools. I lived here during the crack years. I’ve seen the same endless and meaningless platitudes from people saying that that we need to just commission studies that look at combating the roots causes of poverty rather than just actually tackling crime. It’s sucks to see that time is a flat circle and we are just going back to 1989 or whatever.

Anyway, long story short. Jeff police’s this site and ensure that it’s liberal bent is preserved and anyone who disturbs the peace has their post deleted lol.

Whole site is like that. And it’s the unhinged, extremist-type people who post here as much as it is Jeff maintaining this echo-chamber.

It’s progressives operating in an imaginary world of “what I wish it was” rather than “what it is.” They do this all the f’ing time, the consequences are always disastrous, & they never learn from it.

Unskilled economic migrants come on in; defund the police (but lie about it); no cash bail; letting protesters/ rioters have “room to destroy”; being nice to Iran and hope Iran respects our weakness; on & on & on.

This post is such a mishmash of uninformed nonsense that it’s impossible to respond to.

Like “room to destroy” — what even is that? Voices in PP’s head?

The reality, of course, is that DC and other cities experienced a lot of peaceful demonstrations and some very minor crime (much of it apparently initiated by off duty cops and oath keepers) during the summer of 2020. Cops responded by beating and shooting peaceful protester with rubber bullets (including my son, who was standing calmly and chanting a few feet from me). Meanwhile the neo-Nazis who flooded DC to march for Trump and beat up random Black people were never manhandled.

But in PP’s world of crazy, DC and other cities were “destroyed” by BLM protesters. There’s no arguing with this kind of nonsense.