Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:27     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.


So if zoning laws changed in Potomac, a homeowner in Avenel could build a duplex? Their HOA would allow this?

Trying to learn


Typically HOA have restrictive covenants attached to the properties in the neighborhood that prevent people from doing this. You would need to look up the deed and title information for you house to know what is allowed. People that live in a neighborhood that does not have these limitations should look into establishing deed restrictions now with your neighbors, if you want to prevent this from occurring in your local area.


Where do you find this info out on your specific property or neighborhood?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:27     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.


That’s not universally true and in most places where they have de-zoned areas they do have exemptions.

This is just one example…this is why you have to start taking action early.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/was-new-ban-on-single-family-zoning-exempts-some-of-seattles-wealthiest-neighborhoods/

“Exempt from those requirements, however, are homeowner associations and other “common interest communities” that have internal contracts or documents governing their zoning rules. Common interest communities include both sprawling planned developments and smaller subdivisions and condos.

Because homeowner associations and common interest communities have preexisting, legally binding contracts regarding their zoning rules, the Legislature can’t change those, said Rep. Jessica Bateman, D-Olympia, the bill’s lead sponsor.”


We live in Maryland, not Washington.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:24     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.


That’s not universally true and in most places where they have de-zoned areas they do have exemptions.

This is just one example…this is why you have to start taking action early.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/was-new-ban-on-single-family-zoning-exempts-some-of-seattles-wealthiest-neighborhoods/

“Exempt from those requirements, however, are homeowner associations and other “common interest communities” that have internal contracts or documents governing their zoning rules. Common interest communities include both sprawling planned developments and smaller subdivisions and condos.

Because homeowner associations and common interest communities have preexisting, legally binding contracts regarding their zoning rules, the Legislature can’t change those, said Rep. Jessica Bateman, D-Olympia, the bill’s lead sponsor.”
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:23     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.


So if zoning laws changed in Potomac, a homeowner in Avenel could build a duplex? Their HOA would allow this?

Trying to learn


Typically HOA have restrictive covenants attached to the properties in the neighborhood that prevent people from doing this. You would need to look up the deed and title information for you house to know what is allowed. People that live in a neighborhood that does not have these limitations should look into establishing deed restrictions now with your neighbors, if you want to prevent this from occurring in your local area.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:23     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
I think we need a couple of in-fill metro stations with increased density around them. We also need more affordable housing further away. Unfortunately "drive till you qualify" is something that a lot of us have had to deal with in our lives. We bought in BFNW and lived there for years before selling and moving closer again. It sucks but it is what it is. It's how most of us get on the property ladder.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:19     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:All of these YIMBY-related organizations are political pawns for developers. If you look at who is funding this Orgs (GGW, NOVA YIMBYS, etc.), it comes from large corporate developers who would like the ability to build anything and everything wherever they want. These developers are purely interested in making money and do not care about anything else. Communities that fall for this ruse will face serious consequences when the quality of local government services significantly declines due to a lack of consideration for legitimate infrastructure limitations. The developers get rich from this and do not care about destroying communities. They live in gated neighborhoods and send their kids to private schools, so they are glad to destroy residents' communities to make money and are mostly insulated from the real-world consequences.


They have totally mucked up DC. Can't believe MoCo is letting them come for you.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:08     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.


So if zoning laws changed in Potomac, a homeowner in Avenel could build a duplex? Their HOA would allow this?

Trying to learn
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:07     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.


sorry..protect the ability to NOT develop
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:06     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.

HOAs do not have authority over zoning.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:04     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Could neighborhood associations form HOAs that protect the ability to develop multifamily housing? If so, that will definitely happen in many of the wealthier Bethesda/CC neighborhoods

I would pay a lot of money in annual HOA dues to accomplish this.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 16:04     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking


Yes. If you don't want that to happen, you need to buy the property next door. If it's not your property, you don't make the decisions.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:58     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Welcome to the club. Long story short if you bought a home in a single family home zoned neighborhood, you might end next to a new apartment building with no parking. If you are against it you will be called racist. Good luck!
Regards,
Arlington resident that wants a duplex next door, not a six plex on the 5000 sqft lot with no parking
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:56     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
Anonymous wrote:
Where are there "gated neighborhoods" in Montgomery County?


There aren't many of them in Montgomery. The owners of large real estate development firms that live in the county (most of them don't live here) tend to live in neighborhoods with large estate style homes near the Potomac. My point is that people funding these organization are out of touch and not impacted by the policies they are promoting. This is not organic advocacy, it is a business campaign masquerading as a social advocacy organization. I am not against building houses, but we need to be realistic about how quickly density can increase at a sustainable pace without exceeding the expand public services.


Why would you mention "gated neighborhoods" if the people who support these policies don't actually live in gated neighborhoods?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:55     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation
If you believe they will build truly affordable units rather than high end luxury condos, I have this bridge...
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:52     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Where are there "gated neighborhoods" in Montgomery County?


There aren't many of them in Montgomery. The owners of large real estate development firms that live in the county (most of them don't live here) tend to live in neighborhoods with large estate style homes near the Potomac. My point is that people funding these organization are out of touch and not impacted by the policies they are promoting. This is not organic advocacy, it is a business campaign masquerading as a social advocacy organization. I am not against building houses, but we need to be realistic about how quickly density can increase at a sustainable pace without exceeding the expand public services.