Anonymous
03/03/2024 16:44
Subject: Gender Diversity
Thank you your answer from the prior post. I’m sure there is evidence but I assume most don’t care and actually agree with it. It is hard to balance genders when you get 2 or 3 times the application from one gender. They are doing something to try to get a 50/50 class.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 06:55
Subject: Gender Diversity
OP-
To actually answer your question, because there hasn’t been a lawsuit yet. Sex is a protected class like race so it is inconceivable to me that the Supreme Court could allow affirmative action on the basis of sex since it declared race-based affirmative action unconstitutional (though with this Court, you never know- consistency and principle are not its strong suit.) My guess is that a plaintiff hasn’t found strong enough evidence yet of sex-based admissions “scoring” data at a school yet, even though it clearly happens.
To actually answer your question, because there hasn’t been a lawsuit yet. Sex is a protected class like race so it is inconceivable to me that the Supreme Court could allow affirmative action on the basis of sex since it declared race-based affirmative action unconstitutional (though with this Court, you never know- consistency and principle are not its strong suit.) My guess is that a plaintiff hasn’t found strong enough evidence yet of sex-based admissions “scoring” data at a school yet, even though it clearly happens.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 21:58
Subject: Gender Diversity
What is a diverse person?
Like split personalities?
Like split personalities?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 21:58
Subject: Gender Diversity
. What is a traditional college experience? Schools have been integrated for decades with multiple races going to the same schools? One where minorities weren't allowed or weren't selected or they kept their numbers really low. I think when I university is heavily one race other races don't apply to it. It becomes hard to attract them to the school because no one wants to be the only at the school.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will take on the second part of the question. Outside of the highly enlightened folks on DCUM no one cares about diversity. People are tribal and want to be with people like themselves.
This is why you will see schools like Wake Forest and others that have tumbled in the USNWR stay the course because they know an ever growing number of students will seek out the traditional college experience over the current trend to have a highly “diversified” campus.
Wow, your post sounds really bad and I think you were trying to be honest which great and I don't think you intended for it sounds so bad (or so I hope)
I agree with this part, I do believe people get with their tribe which is why I think have all diversity on campus is important.People are tribal and want to be with people like themselves.
This is why you will see schools like Wake Forest and others that have tumbled in the USNWR stay the course because they know an ever growing number of students will seek out the traditional college experience over the current trend to have a highly “diversified” campus.
Diverse people care. High achieving ones even skip top schools for other schools due to the lack of diversity. When you are the majority you have the luxury to not care but when you are in the minority you care.Outside of the highly enlightened folks on DCUM no one cares about diversity.
What is a diverse person?
Like split personalities?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 21:57
Subject: Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not pursue gender diversity. At least the ones larger than 1,000 student enrollments. Men are still discriminated against in STEM fields. Sorry, but not sorry it is true.
Some do. My kid is at a T20 that has far more female applicants but kerps accepted students to 50/50.
How can it be top 20 if they are taking inferior candidates?
I'm not the poster but look at Brown, so many more women apply than men. So yes, I think many women were more qualified than the men selected but I have seen the amount of complaints about balancing classes for gender as race. They are both protected classes. It will be interesting to see if gender makes it to the supreme court or not. It is funny when schools allow women or men into balance the population they are all qualified applicants but no one believes that the minorities selected were qualified.
I prefer balancing, I want a diverse school for race, gender, and income. I think it adds value to class discussions, friendships, and the overall community.
+1
My daughter had no desire to attend a majority female school. Balance is a good thing.
How many guys does she need?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 21:55
Subject: Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will take on the second part of the question. Outside of the highly enlightened folks on DCUM no one cares about diversity. People are tribal and want to be with people like themselves.
This is why you will see schools like Wake Forest and others that have tumbled in the USNWR stay the course because they know an ever growing number of students will seek out the traditional college experience over the current trend to have a highly “diversified” campus.
You mean that White people want to befriend and date only other White people?
Whatever may happen in college, people usually end up marrying within their own race.
Why is us this chart super specific for a just a few Asian nationalities?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 21:53
Subject: Re:Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like boys can pretty much clean up.
The odds or good, but...
Anonymous
02/27/2024 20:59
Subject: Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will take on the second part of the question. Outside of the highly enlightened folks on DCUM no one cares about diversity. People are tribal and want to be with people like themselves.
This is why you will see schools like Wake Forest and others that have tumbled in the USNWR stay the course because they know an ever growing number of students will seek out the traditional college experience over the current trend to have a highly “diversified” campus.
You mean that White people want to befriend and date only other White people?
Whatever may happen in college, people usually end up marrying within their own race.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 20:53
Subject: Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not pursue gender diversity. At least the ones larger than 1,000 student enrollments. Men are still discriminated against in STEM fields. Sorry, but not sorry it is true.
Some do. My kid is at a T20 that has far more female applicants but kerps accepted students to 50/50.
How can it be top 20 if they are taking inferior candidates?
I'm not the poster but look at Brown, so many more women apply than men. So yes, I think many women were more qualified than the men selected but I have seen the amount of complaints about balancing classes for gender as race. They are both protected classes. It will be interesting to see if gender makes it to the supreme court or not. It is funny when schools allow women or men into balance the population they are all qualified applicants but no one believes that the minorities selected were qualified.
I prefer balancing, I want a diverse school for race, gender, and income. I think it adds value to class discussions, friendships, and the overall community.
+1
My daughter had no desire to attend a majority female school. Balance is a good thing.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 20:44
Subject: Gender Diversity
We need provider men. So this is necessary.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 19:20
Subject: Gender Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not pursue gender diversity. At least the ones larger than 1,000 student enrollments. Men are still discriminated against in STEM fields. Sorry, but not sorry it is true.
Some do. My kid is at a T20 that has far more female applicants but kerps accepted students to 50/50.
How can it be top 20 if they are taking inferior candidates?
I'm not the poster but look at Brown, so many more women apply than men. So yes, I think many women were more qualified than the men selected but I have seen the amount of complaints about balancing classes for gender as race. They are both protected classes. It will be interesting to see if gender makes it to the supreme court or not. It is funny when schools allow women or men into balance the population they are all qualified applicants but no one believes that the minorities selected were qualified.
I prefer balancing, I want a diverse school for race, gender, and income. I think it adds value to class discussions, friendships, and the overall community.
Brown is fairly close to 50-50 and, no, they are not compromising on the applicants they accept. They get over 50,000 apps for 1,750 spots. Accepted male applicants’ stats are actually higher than female. For whatever reason, Brown is extremely popular with female applicants. More women than men apply to college than men, in general. It’s a bit circular, but I think they like the relative gender balance at Brown. It is much harder to get into Brown as a male STEM concentrator, however.