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Anonymous wrote:McGill will not reguire it this year, but starting 25/26 they may require you to have Level 5 oral French Proficiency to graduate-yet TBD. Does anyone know what this correlates to? Is it like level of French 4 AP ? French 3? We are dual citizens and while I dont agree with the crazy international tuition hike it may make it easier for my kids to get in...but they are studying Spanish not French in school.

Here you go: https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/what-is-level-5-french-and-how-good-will-out-of-province-students-language-skills-need-to-be

Remembering my AP days, this is a higher requirement than what’s needed to get a 5 on the French lang AP

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how this works for citizenship / permanent residency?

If I'm not a canadian citizen, can my kid apply and if they get in, attend school in Canada? While they are there, can they apply for permanent residency and evenyually citizenship?

My kid is a HS freshman but is very interested in Canadian schools

They can get accepted as an American and probably get work visas…but citizenship is a whole different story, and you certainly won’t get it in any timeframe that helps for Canadian tuition.

Still, Canadian schools are like US$65k all in…not cheaper than instate, but cheaper than most US privates.

Also, tuition differs by major…STEM is more expensive than say liberal arts.

Not worried about tuition but I would think employers up there would favor PR/citizens for job offers. And is health care for anyone in Canada or do you have to be PR/citizen? Would i have to get DS private health care while he's in school there

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how this works for citizenship / permanent residency?

If I'm not a canadian citizen, can my kid apply and if they get in, attend school in Canada? While they are there, can they apply for permanent residency and evenyually citizenship?

My kid is a HS freshman but is very interested in Canadian schools

They can get accepted as an American and probably get work visas…but citizenship is a whole different story, and you certainly won’t get it in any timeframe that helps for Canadian tuition.

Still, Canadian schools are like US$65k all in…not cheaper than instate, but cheaper than most US privates.

Also, tuition differs by major…STEM is more expensive than say liberal arts.

Can someone explain how this works for citizenship / permanent residency?

If I'm not a canadian citizen, can my kid apply and if they get in, attend school in Canada? While they are there, can they apply for permanent residency and evenyually citizenship?

My kid is a HS freshman but is very interested in Canadian schools

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Not true. Maybe for young people but when we there in the summer there were older folks that I wanted to speak with that didn’t speak English, only French. I was surprised!

haha. they probably just didn't want to talk to YOU

It was just striking that people older than me said they couldn’t speak English and yet younger people were ok to. It seemed generational.

For example, I wanted to buy a book in a store and they had to find a younger person to speak English with me. This was in a neighborhood 5 miles from McGill.

And all the signs and directions are in French. I just expected it to be more bilingual and was a bit caught off guard that French truly is the primary language in Montréal.

Anonymous wrote:Following because my junior is interested in Canadian colleges. Thanks for sharing your stories.

Check out MacLeans. It’s a Canadian magazine with many rankings by different categories. I grew up in Canada and moved to the US after university. Americans seem obsessed by McGill, but it’s not the best for everything. There are plenty of great universities in Canada. I would consider the city (vibe, cost of housing, yes weather) and area of study of course.

https://education.macleans.ca/

I’ve lived in Vancouver and Toronto and can highly recommend both for a young adult. Montreal would probably be great too.

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Can you tell me about the tuition hike? My kids are Canadian citizens but would apply from the States ie never lived in Canada.

My understanding is that you actually can declare your kids Quebec residents vs. someone living in another province going to Quebec. I know of a DMV kid with a Canadian parent that pays next to nothing for Magill tuition because they were able to claim Quebec residency.

Maybe that has changed as well.

Yes-Im wondering if this still applies

Yes it still applies. Amazing deal for families that have a Canadian parent. Don't live there, don't pay the taxes, but get the tuition benefit.

Oh and free health insurance!

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Can you tell me about the tuition hike? My kids are Canadian citizens but would apply from the States ie never lived in Canada.

My understanding is that you actually can declare your kids Quebec residents vs. someone living in another province going to Quebec. I know of a DMV kid with a Canadian parent that pays next to nothing for Magill tuition because they were able to claim Quebec residency.

Maybe that has changed as well.

Yes-Im wondering if this still applies

Yes it still applies. Amazing deal for families that have a Canadian parent. Don't live there, don't pay the taxes, but get the tuition benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Not true. Maybe for young people but when we there in the summer there were older folks that I wanted to speak with that didn’t speak English, only French. I was surprised!

haha. they probably just didn't want to talk to YOU

I thought everybody knew that people in Montreal often mess with Americans by pretending they can’t speak English. It’s like their favorite sport.

OP, you can avoid all this annoying Frenchie nonsense & rouge tape by skipping the overrated McGill & focusing on your other excellent options.

Anonymous wrote:McGill will not reguire it this year, but starting 25/26 they may require you to have Level 5 oral French Proficiency to graduate-yet TBD. Does anyone know what this correlates to? Is it like level of French 4 AP ? French 3? We are dual citizens and while I dont agree with the crazy international tuition hike it may make it easier for my kids to get in...but they are studying Spanish not French in school.

Here you go: https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/what-is-level-5-french-and-how-good-will-out-of-province-students-language-skills-need-to-be

McGill will not reguire it this year, but starting 25/26 they may require you to have Level 5 oral French Proficiency to graduate-yet TBD. Does anyone know what this correlates to? Is it like level of French 4 AP ? French 3? We are dual citizens and while I dont agree with the crazy international tuition hike it may make it easier for my kids to get in...but they are studying Spanish not French in school.

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Not true. Maybe for young people but when we there in the summer there were older folks that I wanted to speak with that didn’t speak English, only French. I was surprised!

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Can you tell me about the tuition hike? My kids are Canadian citizens but would apply from the States ie never lived in Canada.

My understanding is that you actually can declare your kids Quebec residents vs. someone living in another province going to Quebec. I know of a DMV kid with a Canadian parent that pays next to nothing for Magill tuition because they were able to claim Quebec residency.

Maybe that has changed as well.

Yes-Im wondering if this still applies

You can phone and ask. you don't have to give your name.

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Anonymous wrote:We were also disappointed by McGill’s tuition increase, which is explicitly designed to discourage applications outside of the Province. Another thing is that your kid won’t be able to get a part time job or internship in Montreal unless they are certified fluent in French.

I can't find any evidence of this. I found evidence that international students won't be able to get a work permit AFTER they graduate or else they speak basic French, but they can work while they are enrolled.

Yeah, everyone in Montreal speaks English fluently anyway.

Can you tell me about the tuition hike? My kids are Canadian citizens but would apply from the States ie never lived in Canada.

My understanding is that you actually can declare your kids Quebec residents vs. someone living in another province going to Quebec. I know of a DMV kid with a Canadian parent that pays next to nothing for Magill tuition because they were able to claim Quebec residency.

Maybe that has changed as well.

Yes-Im wondering if this still applies