Anonymous
02/15/2024 14:41
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.
Oh I love this!
Lottie is so cute.
It really is.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 13:45
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:I understand that the boys were princes of Wales because their dad was The Prince of Wales. When Charles became king and William became The Prince of Wales, Harry could no longer use Wales, correct? So if he hadn't been made a Duke, he would just use Windsor?
Yes, it's sort of weird they want to go by titles tbh. The whole point was they wanted no part in any of it and were condemning it.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 13:08
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
I understand that the boys were princes of Wales because their dad was The Prince of Wales. When Charles became king and William became The Prince of Wales, Harry could no longer use Wales, correct? So if he hadn't been made a Duke, he would just use Windsor?
Anonymous
02/15/2024 13:05
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen?
What do you mean by rank? Her status as queen comes from her spouse. She's the Queen Consort. Her husband has rank.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 13:02
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:If you are a member of the BRF and have an HRH or HM, you don’t really have a surname
William and Harry were born to THE Prince of Wales (Charles)
They were Prince William of Wales and Prince Harry of Wales. The use of Wales as a surname when needed is an informal choice. Just as Lady Louise is actually HRH Princess Louise, but has chosen not to be styled as such.
When William and Harry were created Royal Dukes, those titles carry higher rank. They were still Princes of Wales, but then used Cambridge and Sussex when needed. Williams children were born Princes and Princess of Cambridge. Harry’s were not acknowledged initially but were born Prince and Princess of Sussex
Now William is THE Prince of Wales, a unique Princely title which outranks the royal dukes. He and his family therefore use Wales now
Technically, they are of the House of Windsor and would use it as a surname Mountbatten-Windsor. As the titles fall off in subsequent generations and they do have a surname, it is Mountbatten Windsor
This. It is hard now that we have democracies and thinking everyone always had a last name. In many parts of Europe, families got last names for tax purposes. Royals and such didn't have last names. We peasant serfs (that's what my family was) belonged to lords until the late 1700s/early 1800s. The royals, had the royal "we" because they were the country, so to speak. No need for surnames.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:55
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen?
Yes. But once Charles dies, William can strip her and her children of all of their titles and honors.
I didn't think Camilla's children have any titles or honors?
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:54
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen?
Queen Consort.
I believe yes and no and I base this belief on what I read about Kate and Meagan.
When Camilla is with Charles, she outranks his siblings. When she is by herself, she does not outrank the siblings.
Like I said, I think I read that about Kate and Meagan.
When Kate is with William, the Edwards/Sophies/Andrews/Annes et. al would have to curtsy to her. When she is not with William, they wouldn't have to curtsy to her.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:51
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen?
Yes. But once Charles dies, William can strip her and her children of all of their titles and honors.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 12:47
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen?
Anonymous
02/14/2024 22:33
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Harry and William used their dad’s title as their last name as a child. They were born Prince X of Wales, but were not THE prince of wales. They had no actual title until they got married, then were styled Dukes of Sussex/Cambridge by the Queen. Now that Charles is King, he has granted William the Prince of Wales title in addition, which is a better title.
This is in contrast to Diana. She was Diana, the Princess of Wales because she was married to Charles, but she was not Princess Diana because she was not born a princess.
Diana was Princess Charles just like Meghan is Princess Henry.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 22:26
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My god the paperwork nightmare alone
So glad Meghan got out of there. the princesses that marry in are always in danger. Reminds me of the upcoming Netflix movie damsel. I hope Kate gets better. Seems like William is the type that would metaphorically throw her to the dragons just like his dad did.
It’s not like they are doing the paperwork now is it? “Ummm William, have you completed and mailed the form that changes our last name from Buckingham to Palace and back dear?”
It was noted in the media that Prince William filled out his first two children's birth certificates himself. There are photographs of them online. They were notable for describing the parents' occupations as Prince and Princess of the UK.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 22:20
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.
Oh I love this!
Lottie is so cute.
Aw, that is cute.
Cousins Lili and Lottie — adorable.
The names are super cute.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 22:20
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.
Oh I love this!
Lottie is so cute.
Aw, that is cute.
Cousins Lili and Lottie — adorable.
So adorable that they’ve never met.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 22:15
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.
Oh I love this!
Lottie is so cute.
Aw, that is cute.
Cousins Lili and Lottie — adorable.
Anonymous
02/14/2024 21:50
Subject: Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
If you are a member of the BRF and have an HRH or HM, you don’t really have a surname
William and Harry were born to THE Prince of Wales (Charles)
They were Prince William of Wales and Prince Harry of Wales. The use of Wales as a surname when needed is an informal choice. Just as Lady Louise is actually HRH Princess Louise, but has chosen not to be styled as such.
When William and Harry were created Royal Dukes, those titles carry higher rank. They were still Princes of Wales, but then used Cambridge and Sussex when needed. Williams children were born Princes and Princess of Cambridge. Harry’s were not acknowledged initially but were born Prince and Princess of Sussex
Now William is THE Prince of Wales, a unique Princely title which outranks the royal dukes. He and his family therefore use Wales now
Technically, they are of the House of Windsor and would use it as a surname Mountbatten-Windsor. As the titles fall off in subsequent generations and they do have a surname, it is Mountbatten Windsor
William and Harry were born to THE Prince of Wales (Charles)
They were Prince William of Wales and Prince Harry of Wales. The use of Wales as a surname when needed is an informal choice. Just as Lady Louise is actually HRH Princess Louise, but has chosen not to be styled as such.
When William and Harry were created Royal Dukes, those titles carry higher rank. They were still Princes of Wales, but then used Cambridge and Sussex when needed. Williams children were born Princes and Princess of Cambridge. Harry’s were not acknowledged initially but were born Prince and Princess of Sussex
Now William is THE Prince of Wales, a unique Princely title which outranks the royal dukes. He and his family therefore use Wales now
Technically, they are of the House of Windsor and would use it as a surname Mountbatten-Windsor. As the titles fall off in subsequent generations and they do have a surname, it is Mountbatten Windsor