My 1st grader has a girl in her class who turned 8 in December. I guess the child voluntarily told everyone she turned 8 according to my DD. She seems bright and social so my assumption is Covid had something to do with that decision. While I don't begrudge the parents their choice, it is frustrating to me when the teacher compares my early summer DD to her classmates. I mean sure there are kids with a higher reading level in her class---one is 1.5 years older than her???!!???

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. This person did something close to a double red-shirt?

My DS is early October, and is one of the older 3rd graders at 9.

But you're saying this kid missed the cutoff by a few days and is already 9, but that would basically mean they were a full year older than even the oldest kids?

Anyway, I feel you OP. I'm SO TIRED of my best friend complaining that her son isn't challenged in school. If you wanted to your kid to be challenged, put him in the GD grade he's supposed to be in!

NP but I think it goes like this:

Young Five the 5yo just before the cutoff, immediately turns 6

Kindergarten at 6, immediately turns 7

1st at 7, immediately 8

2nd at 8, immediately 9

My DS has a friend that has a December bday (Oct 1 cutoff district) that started school a year late. He did turn 9 in December of his 2nd grade year. So maybe something like this. But i don't think this is a normal "redshirt" as his bday is actually after the cutoff.

My DS with a birthday a few days before the cut off was redhsirted. And he turned 9 in 3rd grade.

Kinder: started as 5 yo and turned 6 a month in (if not redshirted, he would have started as a 4yo)
1st: started as 6 and turned 7 a month in
2nd: started as 7 and turned 8 a month in
3rd: started as 8 and turned 9 a month in
...

That is not what OP is describing. It’s normal to start k at 5 and turn 6 a month in; that would just be a kid w an October bday who started on time. Op is saying there’s a kid who started k at 6 and turned 7 shortly after k started.

"whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7."

I'm trying to figure out how this statement works in the OP.

I'm giving an example of my DS with a bday a few days before the cutoff and redshirted. And he still started K at 5 and turned 6 shortly even with being redshirted.

So for this kid to start K at 6 and turned 7 shortly, they must not have a bday a few days before the cutoff.

It depends when the cutoff is.

My district has a September 30th cutoff, but school starts end of August. So a child born right before the cutoff would either:

If sent "on time": start K at 4, turn 5 a month in.
If redshirted: start K at 5, turn 6 a month in

Since a kid with a 10/1 birthday would also start K at 5 and turn 6 a month in, no one would care about a child like that being redshirted here, and in fact it's common.

In order to have a 2nd grader who turned 9 a month into school here, you would either need to redshirt a September birthday twice OR redshirt an October birthday. I've never heard of either of those but would assume some kind of developmental delay or other issues if I came across it.

Even in the case of a developmental delay, i'd have questions about a child like this in my kid's classroom, because even with cognitive delays, their physical age would be two years older than my kid (July birthday, not redshirted). Having a kid that much older and more physically mature sounds like a bad idea, especially if they may have developmental issues or special needs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. This person did something close to a double red-shirt?

My DS is early October, and is one of the older 3rd graders at 9.

But you're saying this kid missed the cutoff by a few days and is already 9, but that would basically mean they were a full year older than even the oldest kids?

Anyway, I feel you OP. I'm SO TIRED of my best friend complaining that her son isn't challenged in school. If you wanted to your kid to be challenged, put him in the GD grade he's supposed to be in!

NP but I think it goes like this:

Young Five the 5yo just before the cutoff, immediately turns 6

Kindergarten at 6, immediately turns 7

1st at 7, immediately 8

2nd at 8, immediately 9

My DS has a friend that has a December bday (Oct 1 cutoff district) that started school a year late. He did turn 9 in December of his 2nd grade year. So maybe something like this. But i don't think this is a normal "redshirt" as his bday is actually after the cutoff.

My DS with a birthday a few days before the cut off was redhsirted. And he turned 9 in 3rd grade.

Kinder: started as 5 yo and turned 6 a month in (if not redshirted, he would have started as a 4yo)
1st: started as 6 and turned 7 a month in
2nd: started as 7 and turned 8 a month in
3rd: started as 8 and turned 9 a month in
...

That is not what OP is describing. It’s normal to start k at 5 and turn 6 a month in; that would just be a kid w an October bday who started on time. Op is saying there’s a kid who started k at 6 and turned 7 shortly after k started.

"whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7."

I'm trying to figure out how this statement works in the OP.

I'm giving an example of my DS with a bday a few days before the cutoff and redshirted. And he still started K at 5 and turned 6 shortly even with being redshirted.

So for this kid to start K at 6 and turned 7 shortly, they must not have a bday a few days before the cutoff.

So she started school at 6, isn’t that the law? Why are OPs panties in a twist?

People obsessed with other people's kids are creepy and pathetic. Get a life.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. This person did something close to a double red-shirt?

My DS is early October, and is one of the older 3rd graders at 9.

But you're saying this kid missed the cutoff by a few days and is already 9, but that would basically mean they were a full year older than even the oldest kids?

Anyway, I feel you OP. I'm SO TIRED of my best friend complaining that her son isn't challenged in school. If you wanted to your kid to be challenged, put him in the GD grade he's supposed to be in!

NP but I think it goes like this:

Young Five the 5yo just before the cutoff, immediately turns 6

Kindergarten at 6, immediately turns 7

1st at 7, immediately 8

2nd at 8, immediately 9

My DS has a friend that has a December bday (Oct 1 cutoff district) that started school a year late. He did turn 9 in December of his 2nd grade year. So maybe something like this. But i don't think this is a normal "redshirt" as his bday is actually after the cutoff.

My DS with a birthday a few days before the cut off was redhsirted. And he turned 9 in 3rd grade.

Kinder: started as 5 yo and turned 6 a month in (if not redshirted, he would have started as a 4yo)
1st: started as 6 and turned 7 a month in
2nd: started as 7 and turned 8 a month in
3rd: started as 8 and turned 9 a month in
...

That is not what OP is describing. It’s normal to start k at 5 and turn 6 a month in; that would just be a kid w an October bday who started on time. Op is saying there’s a kid who started k at 6 and turned 7 shortly after k started.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a kid in DD class whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7. They are now in 2nd grade and I’m honestly so tired of this mom and her bragging about her “advanced” 9yo second grader.

She’s so great at sports, she’s reading above third-grade level (probably because she should BE a third grader, or older!)

I’m not so sure she’s advanced as much as she’s just older. Thoughts? Do I just ignore this woman or should something politely be said?

I know someone like this. Child was redshirted with an early June (like June 2) birthday. For K she was like “I just hope it’s advanced enough.” It took everything in me not to say “maybe if you hadn’t redshirted how advanced K is wouldn’t be a concern.” But I held it in. Soon enough these kids will realize it’s awkward to be a year older than everyone in their class, and it’s not their fault. It’s the parents, but it’s annoying.

They are not a year older. The June birthday will be the same age, or within a few months of several kids. She might not even be the oldest.

A June birthday child that was redshirted will be a full year older than my late June child who went to K on time (and is doing great academically and socially in 3rd, by the way).

Yes but they are not going to be that much older than most kids and may not even be the oldest in their grade.

I have a young for her grade DD and a neighbor with a DD in the same grade as my DD held her DD. She’s over 14 months older than my DD and she’s constantly posting in FB moms groups I’m in about how advanced her DD is and she can’t wait till she gets in the gifted program… barf. She’s in the wrong grade. She’s probably average for the grade she SHOULD be in.

What about my kid in the correct grade who does well? I can’t stand braggy redshirters. To me, it’s embarrassing for them because they had so little faith in their kid’s abilities, they had to hold them back so they could claim they are “advanced”. Drives me crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. This person did something close to a double red-shirt?

My DS is early October, and is one of the older 3rd graders at 9.

But you're saying this kid missed the cutoff by a few days and is already 9, but that would basically mean they were a full year older than even the oldest kids?

Anyway, I feel you OP. I'm SO TIRED of my best friend complaining that her son isn't challenged in school. If you wanted to your kid to be challenged, put him in the GD grade he's supposed to be in!

NP but I think it goes like this:

Young Five the 5yo just before the cutoff, immediately turns 6

Kindergarten at 6, immediately turns 7

1st at 7, immediately 8

2nd at 8, immediately 9

My DS has a friend that has a December bday (Oct 1 cutoff district) that started school a year late. He did turn 9 in December of his 2nd grade year. So maybe something like this. But i don't think this is a normal "redshirt" as his bday is actually after the cutoff.

My DS with a birthday a few days before the cut off was redhsirted. And he turned 9 in 3rd grade.

Kinder: started as 5 yo and turned 6 a month in (if not redshirted, he would have started as a 4yo)
1st: started as 6 and turned 7 a month in
2nd: started as 7 and turned 8 a month in
3rd: started as 8 and turned 9 a month in
...

Anonymous wrote:What would you do besides ignore? Why do you even care?

+1

I mean, this topic has obviously been covered quite a bit already and DCUM very divided. I am personally with you, OP. I have an 8 year old in the third grade (he won't turn 9 until this July). At some point, there has to be some sort of rigidity imposed preventing parents from holding kids back absent some officially cleared reason, right?

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a kid in DD class whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7. They are now in 2nd grade and I’m honestly so tired of this mom and her bragging about her “advanced” 9yo second grader.

She’s so great at sports, she’s reading above third-grade level (probably because she should BE a third grader, or older!)

I’m not so sure she’s advanced as much as she’s just older. Thoughts? Do I just ignore this woman or should something politely be said?

I know someone like this. Child was redshirted with an early June (like June 2) birthday. For K she was like “I just hope it’s advanced enough.” It took everything in me not to say “maybe if you hadn’t redshirted how advanced K is wouldn’t be a concern.” But I held it in. Soon enough these kids will realize it’s awkward to be a year older than everyone in their class, and it’s not their fault. It’s the parents, but it’s annoying.

They are not a year older. The June birthday will be the same age, or within a few months of several kids. She might not even be the oldest.

A June birthday child that was redshirted will be a full year older than my late June child who went to K on time (and is doing great academically and socially in 3rd, by the way).

but what OP is describing looks different. it sounds like a child born in september (not june) was redshirted. i.e. a child who was already likely to oldest was redshirted. honestly, i am not sure i understand - but she did mention that the child started K at almost 7?

Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Parents like that one infuriate me. My youngest is going to be that kid who turns 9 in second grade. I pray we’ll be at a point where it seems like she’s too old for her grade but if we are what people won’t be able to see is how hard she worked to at least get on a level where she can be in school with her neurotypical peers. I would have loved to send her to K on time but that wasn’t possible. Moms like the one who hold back for other reasons make me so mad

I get why you made the decision you did. But your reason is NOT the only good reason to start a child at age 6 instead of age 5. And, at least in MCPS, starting a kid at age 6 is within the stated boundaries. It’s not holding a kid back.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a kid in DD class whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7. They are now in 2nd grade and I’m honestly so tired of this mom and her bragging about her “advanced” 9yo second grader.

She’s so great at sports, she’s reading above third-grade level (probably because she should BE a third grader, or older!)

I’m not so sure she’s advanced as much as she’s just older. Thoughts? Do I just ignore this woman or should something politely be said?

I know someone like this. Child was redshirted with an early June (like June 2) birthday. For K she was like “I just hope it’s advanced enough.” It took everything in me not to say “maybe if you hadn’t redshirted how advanced K is wouldn’t be a concern.” But I held it in. Soon enough these kids will realize it’s awkward to be a year older than everyone in their class, and it’s not their fault. It’s the parents, but it’s annoying.

They are not a year older. The June birthday will be the same age, or within a few months of several kids. She might not even be the oldest.

A June birthday child that was redshirted will be a full year older than my late June child who went to K on time (and is doing great academically and socially in 3rd, by the way).

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a kid in DD class whose birthday is just days before the cutoff. They didn’t start K until she was 6, almost 7. They are now in 2nd grade and I’m honestly so tired of this mom and her bragging about her “advanced” 9yo second grader.

She’s so great at sports, she’s reading above third-grade level (probably because she should BE a third grader, or older!)

I’m not so sure she’s advanced as much as she’s just older. Thoughts? Do I just ignore this woman or should something politely be said?

I know someone like this. Child was redshirted with an early June (like June 2) birthday. For K she was like “I just hope it’s advanced enough.” It took everything in me not to say “maybe if you hadn’t redshirted how advanced K is wouldn’t be a concern.” But I held it in. Soon enough these kids will realize it’s awkward to be a year older than everyone in their class, and it’s not their fault. It’s the parents, but it’s annoying.

They are not a year older. The June birthday will be the same age, or within a few months of several kids. She might not even be the oldest.