Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 15:18     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:I will also note that Grinnell’s ED acceptance rate went down this year, probably in part due to the automatic merit aid.


What is it now?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 15:16     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here -yes, I think we will look at Macalaster and UMN when we are up there. (She would be interested in the ag/food science school which I understand is on a smaller campus). She is not too keen Carleton. Our neighbors have 2 kids there and they say it is a total pressure cooker. Plus, I figure if she can get into Carleton, she could get into Grinnell, which has more programs she likes and is closest to home (a plus for her). PA is furthest afield for us, but she really liked the offerings at Dickinson.


FWIW, my Carleton student has not found Carleton to be a pressure cooker. Students are collaborative and friendly. It's on the trimester system, so terms do move quickly. Maybe your neighbors' kids don't like that aspect?



Very liberal. VERY. And into DEI and indoctrination. NOt wort $86K a year and my wife went there and 100% agrees.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 15:14     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:Must every thread devolve into a debate about wokeness/DEI?

This thread is about Midwestern LACs.

Speaking of which, I've heard nothing but good things about Wooster. It seems to punch above its weight (prestige/ranking) in terms of academics, with great grad school placement.


I wish we lived closer to the Midwest, because I really like many Midwestern LACs. I haven't found any on the east coast that have the same vibe. I know it's not a big deal to travel to most from the DMV, but it does get old.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 15:06     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


If you think woke schools are inclusive, try standing up in class and saying Ron DeSantis did the best job of any governor during Covid. You'll see pretty quickly how tolerant your classmates and professor are.


Why would someone stand up in class and say that? Such a weird hypothetical.


They could be having a class discussion on public health policy. It's no weirder of a hypothetical than someone in class arguing, for instance, that brutalism is an underrated style of architecture. It just depends on the context and what preceded the comment.


No, it’s a much, much weirder hypothetical.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 14:57     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


If you think woke schools are inclusive, try standing up in class and saying Ron DeSantis did the best job of any governor during Covid. You'll see pretty quickly how tolerant your classmates and professor are.


Why would someone stand up in class and say that? Such a weird hypothetical.


They could be having a class discussion on public health policy. It's no weirder of a hypothetical than someone in class arguing, for instance, that brutalism is an underrated style of architecture. It just depends on the context and what preceded the comment.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 14:56     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Must every thread devolve into a debate about wokeness/DEI?

This thread is about Midwestern LACs.

Speaking of which, I've heard nothing but good things about Wooster. It seems to punch above its weight (prestige/ranking) in terms of academics, with great grad school placement.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 14:48     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


If you think woke schools are inclusive, try standing up in class and saying Ron DeSantis did the best job of any governor during Covid. You'll see pretty quickly how tolerant your classmates and professor are.


DP: What would happen? They might disagree and argue with you and use different metrics of "best" than what you are basing your claim on. That's what college is about. No one is going to shoot you, kick you out of class, dock your grade etc. You just have to support your claims. That is unless you just randomly started talking about Ron DeSantis at an irrelevant point--then people will tell you to get back to focusing on the organic chem or the psychology experiment or whatever rather than spouting off.
Really, what are you afraid happens?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 14:29     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.



Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 14:25     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


Good thing kids have the ability to choose and different options are available. People can choose their own adventure.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 13:56     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


If you think woke schools are inclusive, try standing up in class and saying Ron DeSantis did the best job of any governor during Covid. You'll see pretty quickly how tolerant your classmates and professor are.


Why would someone stand up in class and say that? Such a weird hypothetical.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 12:57     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.


If you think woke schools are inclusive, try standing up in class and saying Ron DeSantis did the best job of any governor during Covid. You'll see pretty quickly how tolerant your classmates and professor are.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 12:02     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


I personally prefer my kids go to woke schools because I want them to learn about our country’s complex and at times ugly history. I want them to be in an environment that fosters true inclusion and where the students are genuinely interested in making society more just and fair. Woke is a good thing; it means you are awake and have your eyes open. I get it, it’s easier to live in denial and pretend your white Indiana ancestors were in the KKK or that slavery was a benevolent form of employment, or that traditional women’s roles were just great, never mind my mother legally could not apply for a credit card on her own when I was a kid. I get that some kids aren’t able to handle being uncomfortable, ever. Mine can handle it.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 11:28     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
I know a couple of kids at St. Olaf and they love it. It's a gorgeous campus.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 11:07     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Carleton doesn’t offer merit aid.

Grinnell is far and away the best school in the Midwest outside of Carleton - it’s basically Carleton’s peer - and it does offer substantial merit aid. It’s a fantastic school. If OP’s kid can get in there, it’s a no brainer. No other school on OP’s list or suggested by other posters comes close.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 11:05     Subject: Midwestern SLACS
Anonymous wrote:Dennison is probably the best Midwestern SLAC that isn't overly woke, if that matters to you. It would to me.


Denison

One n.

Fixed that for you.