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Anonymous wrote:I am a PP with DD at TCD. No issues with internships in the US at all. As others said, I think it makes you stand out. Also, we know other American families with students at TCD and all who applied have gotten into great funded grad school programs. That may be equally relevant if your student wants to study humanities. US academic institutions understand TCD reputation and grading system

DP here. Has there been a struggle finding housing? I understand that's been an issue for some students.

Housing is tight. Our DD has been in an apartment building for students for two years. First year was guaranteed. This year, signed up midyear last year to keep a spot. What is difficult is finding a house or apartment to share with friends but that doesn't seem to bother DD at all.

Yeah but something like 80% work in jobs that have nothing to do with our major unless you want to be an engineer, don’t sweat switching from bio to history. You can get into law school or med school - or work most jobs - with either one.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the adult responsibility required at European universities very appealing. The US undergraduate experience has become an insanely expensive extension of high school. I am not paying 200-400k for my child to bounce around exploring basket weaving and kinesiology. A focused course of study with a good ROI at a price we can cash flow suits me fine.

You could also just send your kid to UVA in state and tell them not to change majors? Or whatever your flagship is… Wouldn’t that be cheaper than flying your kid to Europe? I’d think it would be difficult to land summer internships from across the pond too.

This. one study found as many as 80% of first-year students changed their major at least once.

Anonymous wrote:I am a PP with DD at TCD. No issues with internships in the US at all. As others said, I think it makes you stand out. Also, we know other American families with students at TCD and all who applied have gotten into great funded grad school programs. That may be equally relevant if your student wants to study humanities. US academic institutions understand TCD reputation and grading system

DP here. Has there been a struggle finding housing? I understand that's been an issue for some students.

I am a PP with DD at TCD. No issues with internships in the US at all. As others said, I think it makes you stand out. Also, we know other American families with students at TCD and all who applied have gotten into great funded grad school programs. That may be equally relevant if your student wants to study humanities. US academic institutions understand TCD reputation and grading system

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Anonymous wrote:I find the adult responsibility required at European universities very appealing. The US undergraduate experience has become an insanely expensive extension of high school. I am not paying 200-400k for my child to bounce around exploring basket weaving and kinesiology. A focused course of study with a good ROI at a price we can cash flow suits me fine.

You could also just send your kid to UVA in state and tell them not to change majors? Or whatever your flagship is… Wouldn’t that be cheaper than flying your kid to Europe? I’d think it would be difficult to land summer internships from across the pond too.

I am not too worried about this. I think stepping off the conveyor belt and having a different life experience is no bad thing. I followed an unconventional path myself and would say that I benefited enormously from it. Not just that my career has been fine, but that I have had a very interesting life.

+1. 30 years ago did same with American magazine’s London bureau….quite the opposite effect actually: it makes you stand out from the State U crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the adult responsibility required at European universities very appealing. The US undergraduate experience has become an insanely expensive extension of high school. I am not paying 200-400k for my child to bounce around exploring basket weaving and kinesiology. A focused course of study with a good ROI at a price we can cash flow suits me fine.

You could also just send your kid to UVA in state and tell them not to change majors? Or whatever your flagship is… Wouldn’t that be cheaper than flying your kid to Europe? I’d think it would be difficult to land summer internships from across the pond too.

as a parent who had a kid who picked a UK school and who had summer opportunities at Google and then Airbnb (corp), this is inaccurate. But it's what I worried about too, so I'm not being snarky. Not to dox my kid with more details, but they ended up at a mega American corp in London for their first job with a path within company back to states when they want to, which is not yet. The visa issue with Americans with UK degrees (allowing them to work for a few years in UK) is appealing to companies. Doesn't get you hired, but clears one bothersome hurdle

Anonymous wrote:I find the adult responsibility required at European universities very appealing. The US undergraduate experience has become an insanely expensive extension of high school. I am not paying 200-400k for my child to bounce around exploring basket weaving and kinesiology. A focused course of study with a good ROI at a price we can cash flow suits me fine.

You could also just send your kid to UVA in state and tell them not to change majors? Or whatever your flagship is… Wouldn’t that be cheaper than flying your kid to Europe? I’d think it would be difficult to land summer internships from across the pond too.

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From my kid's perspective, the disadvantage isn't lack of core curriculum or basic requirements--I agree that's great--but rather inability to take many classes outside your selected course. Double majoring is not a thing. TCD is not the place if you want the ability to study across disciplines.

TCD has many dual major type options which they call “joint honours” programs. For example, computer science and business, business and a language, mathematics and economics, music, language, or philosophy. There are many interesting combinations available!

The inclusion of a second major is still exclusionary to 100s of classes that are otherwise available in most US colleges…. Drama, cinema, data science, kinesiology, sports marketing, informatics, literally everything and anything else… these types of classes cannot be accessed outside of a major in Ireland or the UK. It is the very difference between our two education systems. Their system teaches narrowly. Ours teaches broadly.

The US system is largely an extension of High School, like a boarding school where most kids share rooms. In Ireland and the UK it is actual advanced, intellectual study requiring maturity and independence. And most rooms are singles.

Huh I hired people from the likes of Loughborough Kent Bath and University of Reading. There was nothing intellectual about them.

Because those are largely crappy universities and have always been considered 3rd rung.

I find the adult responsibility required at European universities very appealing. The US undergraduate experience has become an insanely expensive extension of high school. I am not paying 200-400k for my child to bounce around exploring basket weaving and kinesiology. A focused course of study with a good ROI at a price we can cash flow suits me fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in UK but the methods are similar. Some people need literally everything spelled out. Sheesh! People don’t use parentheses and extra wording on internet posts. Assume you are smart enough to get the point. Guess you aren’t.

Referring to Ireland as part of the UK is inaccurate and ignorant.

PP who first pointed it out and yup. Anyone who understands anything about Irish history would know this. If you are in a conversation about attending an Irish university, you should demonstrate the bare minimum of awareness.

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Anonymous wrote:Not in UK but the methods are similar. Some people need literally everything spelled out. Sheesh! People don’t use parentheses and extra wording on internet posts. Assume you are smart enough to get the point. Guess you aren’t.

Referring to Ireland as part of the UK is inaccurate and ignorant.

Ok you guys have had your fun. Can we stay on topic now please?

Anonymous wrote:Not in UK but the methods are similar. Some people need literally everything spelled out. Sheesh! People don’t use parentheses and extra wording on internet posts. Assume you are smart enough to get the point. Guess you aren’t.

Referring to Ireland as part of the UK is inaccurate and ignorant.

Not in UK but the methods are similar. Some people need literally everything spelled out. Sheesh! People don’t use parentheses and extra wording on internet posts. Assume you are smart enough to get the point. Guess you aren’t.