Anonymous wrote:Have you looked at the social media posts from current students? It's a grinder school - all work and very little fun. Kids don't want that vibe, no matter how great the basketball team performs (or doesn't).

What an idiotic response! So Duke suddenly because a grinder last year?

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Anonymous wrote:$90K per year. And if you need it the aid is ok, not overly generous.

They just announced a generous free tuition plan for North Carolina students, I think their financial aid is some of the best in the country. It seems more likely that people are getting told by there guidance counselors that Duke is a moonshot

Most parents can’t keep setting $80 on fire with no potential return so they are telling kids pick ONE sub-10% lottery school for your list and well this year Larla picked Columbia instead to waste an application on.

Would definitely explain a discrepancy between ED and RD.

Anonymous wrote:After over 44,000 RD applicants last year, Duke received less than 40,000 this year. Any thoughts?

They got in ED

Tulane's RD applications were also down. Maybe it has something to do with the southern school's getting a bit less popular after the covid surge.

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Anonymous wrote:Most parents I know feel like no one ever gets in w/o being a recruit, so it's not worth the time to do the application.

Yale just announced a record high applicant pool at nearly 50,000 RD apps, and Duke and Yale have about the same acceptance rate. Wonder why Yale wouldn't have experienced a drop in applicants too.

Ridiculous.

What’s the point of 50,000 apps?

$4.25mm a year in application fees fills a lot of budget holes.

For better or worse, Duke no longer has the preppy, country club, lax bro image. Some students now see Duke more like UChicago, WUSTL, Emory, MIT - all great schools, but not fun like other expensive, popular, private schools such as UMiami, Tulane, BC, Wake Forest and Vandy.

Anyone who visits is turned off by the zombie like self absorbed students.

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Anonymous wrote:Too expensive for the degree at a non IVY

But Duke is better than half the ivies...

+1, that's why seeing their RD numbers drop is very perplexing. Harvard has also seen their numbers drop... are people beginning to give up on the RD lottery?

Clearly, it's NOT better than half the ivies...

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Anonymous wrote:Most parents I know feel like no one ever gets in w/o being a recruit, so it's not worth the time to do the application.

Yale just announced a record high applicant pool at nearly 50,000 RD apps, and Duke and Yale have about the same acceptance rate. Wonder why Yale wouldn't have experienced a drop in applicants too.

Because apparently cold, slightly depressing New England towns are the new Southern school!

Climate change, baby!

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Anonymous wrote:$90K per year. And if you need it the aid is ok, not overly generous.

They just announced a generous free tuition plan for North Carolina students, I think their financial aid is some of the best in the country. It seems more likely that people are getting told by there guidance counselors that Duke is a moonshot

Duke is actively trying to recruit NC students as their student body is overwhelmingly OOS (I think it’s around 10% of undergrads are from NC). Local kids just don’t want to go there, probably for a variety of reasons.

Anonymous wrote:$90K per year. And if you need it the aid is ok, not overly generous.

They just announced a generous free tuition plan for North Carolina students, I think their financial aid is some of the best in the country. It seems more likely that people are getting told by there guidance counselors that Duke is a moonshot

$90K per year. And if you need it the aid is ok, not overly generous.

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Anonymous wrote:Too expensive for the degree at a non IVY

But Duke is better than half the ivies...

+1, that's why seeing their RD numbers drop is very perplexing. Harvard has also seen their numbers drop... are people beginning to give up on the RD lottery?

Is it down from pre-pandemic numbers though? Or are things just returning to the norm? I would think many of those suburban sub-1450 scoring TO kids may now realize they don’t have the same chances they did in 2021 and it’s just not worth their time. That seems healthy.

Have you looked at the social media posts from current students? It's a grinder school - all work and very little fun. Kids don't want that vibe, no matter how great the basketball team performs (or doesn't).

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Anonymous wrote:Too expensive for the degree at a non IVY

But Duke is better than half the ivies...

+1, that's why seeing their RD numbers drop is very perplexing. Harvard has also seen their numbers drop... are people beginning to give up on the RD lottery?