Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:49
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:I have Junior twins and I am so stressed out even thinking about testing, college visits, college costs...It all feels so up in the air. I wake up with anxiety and go to bed with anxiety about it all.
There is nothing I can say that will make it better for you. BUT, good or bad, kids will find admission in all kinds of big/small, rural/urban etc etc colleges or even go to community college and then regular college. The college admission does not matter eventually.
What matters? My top 7 -
1 - Choosing a major and career that will make you employable as soon as you graduate in your field
2 - Excelling at college academically, keeping your nose clean at school/work/private life, not getting derailed. Protect your health, academic record, mental peace, reputation, money and physical security.
3 - Having the least amount of student debt possible. Zero student debt is even better.
4 - Making sure that your basic needs are covered at college without having to hustle for it - roof over head, place to study, medical care, food and transportation, academic tools, tutors, daily needs.
5 - Having a support system that may include being close to home. Homecooked meals, someone to do your laundry once in a while when you are sick. Take all the help you can get.
6 - Mom and dad not divorcing or selling the house and moving away or dying. So, nothing catastrophic. Parents who throw their kids out at 18 are especially toxic for college kids.
7. Internships, research opportunity, part time jobs - experiences that build your resume. Someone to teach you interview skills, networking, job hunting, how to dress for work and basic financial literacy.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:48
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I can't see how one freshman year class is going to determine which college they get into.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
I get your point but how is what I am saying wrong? We're asking little kids to make decisions that change what college they can get into.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:47
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
I get your point but how is what I am saying wrong? We're asking little kids to make decisions that change what college they can get into.
If you really think your son’s college experience and future career hinges on one class, then honestly there’s no hope for you. Every year, every semester, every test and class is going to have you second guessing yourself. And feeling guilty. And wanting to step in and “fix” things.
Strap yourself in. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:47
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
I get your point but how is what I am saying wrong? We're asking little kids to make decisions that change what college they can get into.
HS students aren't "little kids". How do you plan to make all of their decisions once they get to college?
9th grade is a little kid
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:46
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
I get your point but how is what I am saying wrong? We're asking little kids to make decisions that change what college they can get into.
HS students aren't "little kids". How do you plan to make all of their decisions once they get to college?
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:45
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid is extremely stressed by the whole process. Maintaining high grades, rigorous classes, athletics, finding meaningful extracurriculars, high pressure among peers.
It’s a lot of stress. I have no personal stress over it, but I AM involved, supportive and try to help where I can.
I take on all the stress, and I don't know how not to, or not to feel hugely responsible.I feel like where they end up with good guidance v. low guidance/bad guidance will be different, and I am the one making the difference. It feels like too much on my shoulders to decide.
If it's causing this much stress then you should find a good college counselor to provide the guidance or invest your time in doing the research to really understand the process so you feel more confident guiding them. I do get the stress. I felt that way as my oldest started high school but I am a librarian and I deal with stress by doing research! Read everything I could, listen to a lot of podcasts and by the time he was ready to start the process I felt really comfortable with it. And, fully understood that some schools are super hard to get into but there are many options that can provide a great start to life so was really chill about which place they ended up.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:45
Subject: How much stress is normal?
I didnt feel stressed until the day my kids ED decisions were being announced. Not sure they did either.
I didn't plan their path, neither did they. They took the hardest classes they could, did as well as they could, did sports and ECs they enjoyed and in the end it all worked out. I did stress a tiny bit about how I was gonna pay for it, but they are in state schools and its really not THAT bad. I am cash flowing about half because I didn't save enough.
I didn't plan their path, neither did they. They took the hardest classes they could, did as well as they could, did sports and ECs they enjoyed and in the end it all worked out. I did stress a tiny bit about how I was gonna pay for it, but they are in state schools and its really not THAT bad. I am cash flowing about half because I didn't save enough.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:42
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
I get your point but how is what I am saying wrong? We're asking little kids to make decisions that change what college they can get into.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:41
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:My kid is extremely stressed by the whole process. Maintaining high grades, rigorous classes, athletics, finding meaningful extracurriculars, high pressure among peers.
It’s a lot of stress. I have no personal stress over it, but I AM involved, supportive and try to help where I can.
I take on all the stress, and I don't know how not to, or not to feel hugely responsible.I feel like where they end up with good guidance v. low guidance/bad guidance will be different, and I am the one making the difference. It feels like too much on my shoulders to decide.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:40
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
OP clearly just wants to feel guilty and stressed and nothing we say is going to make a difference.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:39
Subject: Re:How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:That's crazy.
I have a Senior and Sophomore and I felt zero stress. The only stress (more like nervous energy) was waiting for my kid's first decision 12/15.
I didn't script my kids. Granted- I'm lucky both my sons have always gotten As, done their work and play sports, get involved. But, I didn't worry. We didn't hire a private counselor or any of that stuff.
I certainly did not want my kids to feel pressure or stress. I always reminded my oldest last year and this year that it is basically a lottery at a lot of places and most of all: it's not personal. They don't know him. They have certain quotas and agendas they need for their incoming classes.
He got deferred at his top choice and then in at two selective EA schools so the pressure is completely off. He would be thrilled to go to any of those.
Don't make it stressful. Get on some anxiety meds or something. It's not normal.
Some people are more easy going (your son) and some worry more. Your advice is not helpful, so why offer it.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:36
Subject: How much stress is normal?
My kid is extremely stressed by the whole process. Maintaining high grades, rigorous classes, athletics, finding meaningful extracurriculars, high pressure among peers.
It’s a lot of stress. I have no personal stress over it, but I AM involved, supportive and try to help where I can.
It’s a lot of stress. I have no personal stress over it, but I AM involved, supportive and try to help where I can.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:34
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.
He was just a little kid who didn't know better, and I am an adult who should have known better.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:34
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
I hear you. I have a senior and a junior. Life is rough to say the least.
I feel like I’ve not done enough to help my senior and could’ve navigated this better if I’d hired the right outside counselors. Even though I tried to micromanage the process, I feel like it would’ve been better if I had a neutral third-party involved.
As it is right now he’s gotten into a bunch of state schools out of state, including Wisconsin, deferred at others, and waiting on a long long list of schools for March and April. I feel like the process should have been smoother and there’s still so much anxiety given all the deferrals, but perhaps that is just the nature of the beast this year.
You have to realize that all of this will be out of your control. Set a schedule to work on things over the summer, and then the rest is out of your hands. Hire a hood outside counselor.
I feel the exact same way with similar results. But deferred at Wisconsin and Michigan. Waiting on others and in some.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 13:30
Subject: How much stress is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your level of stress is not normal. This is not your life, but your kids lives. They will get in, somewhere. Nobody needs to go to their "dream" college, and shouldn't even have one. They can always do community college for a year or two and then transfer somewhere they'd like to be.
It feels like I have a HUGE part in this though. They are so young and don't know enough to decide on their own. They ask for my opinion a lot. This past week was course selection for senior year and even that was a huge decision I needed to give input on. My ds made a mistake freshman year selecting a course and it has hindered him since. It was my fault and it's the reason why he is ranked lower than dd (that one course was not advanced enough) It feels like too much responsibility.
This whole paragraph is sad. One freshman class has “hindered” him since? It’s the reason he’s ranked lower than DD - so if you didn’t make this mistake they’d be tied??
I hope your not feeding this stress and BS to your kids.
He is the one who brought it up and yes, that class gets weighted less so it took him down without him doing anything wrong. He was upset about it. I wouldn't know if he didn't mention it.
Stop right there. Did you make the best decision at the time with the knowledge you had? You tell him that and end of discussion.
I didn't make the best decision. I should have pushed him to take the class dd took.
Why? He chose the class, right? He should accept that he made the decision that he thought best at the time and move on from there. If you had pushed him to take that class, he did, and then did poorly, he'd now be blaming you for pushing him.