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Post 03/20/2024 17:51     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


I wouldn't call the head to head competition a fast-paced trivia game. DS has started watching the old competitions on YouTube and the questions are not trivial. It is pretty impressive that the kids can answer some of them as fast as they do. I know that there are tricks and tips that the kids learn that help them solve the problems quickly but many of them take the kids almost the full amount of given time. I have seen a good number answered incorrectly by both kids. Overall, their performance is pretty impressive. It feels a lot like the spelling bee.

I doubt that increasing the number of kids in the state level competition is going to change much of anything. The schools that produce the top teams have a lot of kids that are really into math and study hard for the competition. They have a larger pool to draw from. I would guess that the kids who do well in math counts go on to do well on the AMC10 and AMC 12 and the competitions that are selected based on those results.


PP here. I wasn't advocating increasing the number at state, although I would condone that. I was advocating for more kids at chapter : right now, only ~12 kids get to go to chapter from Longfellow. The 13th might be really good and I'm sure many of those "13s" go on to qualify for the AIME. On the other hand, many of Longfellow's team of 12 decide not to continue math after MS and don't try for the AIME.

Given the stochasticness described above, why not be more inclusive at the chapter level? It would not come at any net cost (and may actually be revenue positive for mathcounts)


There are good reasons to restrict teams to 12 competitors each at the chapter level. In some chapters, one school is a powerhouse, and the rest aren't especially competitive. If the powerhouse school could bring 20 or more kids to chapter, then they'd crowd other schools out from even having a chance to get kids to the state round. Schools that feel like they have no chance of ever qualifying anyone for state often stop participating altogether.

One state that I know of has only 4 chapters, which each one sending around 25 kids to state. One school in one of those chapters generally qualifies its entire 12 person delegation to state, leaving 13 spots for everyone else. If they were allowed to bring 20 kids, they'd likely grab at least another 6 spots.

A lot of the most competitive schools don't rely on just the school round for picking their teams, but instead consider AMC 10 scores as well as scores from other competitions. They can also make the school round more of an event, so that all of the kids in the mathcounts club get to feel like they're having a more official mathcounts experience.


Are you advocating a system where Bobby13 at Longfellow, who would have scored higher than Larla from Potomac, should be barred from chapter so Larla gets a better chance at getting a medal at chapter? Just because his parents live in a neighborhood full of mathletes?

Does Longfellow have this extended selection system?

I’m not advocating for anything. Mathcounts wants as many schools as possible to participate. They’re not trying to make sure the absolute top 100-200 kids in the region are participating.

In your scenario, Mathcounts would prefer having Potomac continue competing rather than get frustrated and quit because Longfellow is taking disproportionately many spots. They also want to make sure the competition logistics are reasonable. 12 kids per school is plenty. While Bobby13 might score higher than Larla, he will be nowhere near being competitive in the chapter. Excluding him will hopefully motivate him to practice more and improve.
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Post 03/20/2024 17:07     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


I wouldn't call the head to head competition a fast-paced trivia game. DS has started watching the old competitions on YouTube and the questions are not trivial. It is pretty impressive that the kids can answer some of them as fast as they do. I know that there are tricks and tips that the kids learn that help them solve the problems quickly but many of them take the kids almost the full amount of given time. I have seen a good number answered incorrectly by both kids. Overall, their performance is pretty impressive. It feels a lot like the spelling bee.

I doubt that increasing the number of kids in the state level competition is going to change much of anything. The schools that produce the top teams have a lot of kids that are really into math and study hard for the competition. They have a larger pool to draw from. I would guess that the kids who do well in math counts go on to do well on the AMC10 and AMC 12 and the competitions that are selected based on those results.


PP here. I wasn't advocating increasing the number at state, although I would condone that. I was advocating for more kids at chapter : right now, only ~12 kids get to go to chapter from Longfellow. The 13th might be really good and I'm sure many of those "13s" go on to qualify for the AIME. On the other hand, many of Longfellow's team of 12 decide not to continue math after MS and don't try for the AIME.

Given the stochasticness described above, why not be more inclusive at the chapter level? It would not come at any net cost (and may actually be revenue positive for mathcounts)


There are good reasons to restrict teams to 12 competitors each at the chapter level. In some chapters, one school is a powerhouse, and the rest aren't especially competitive. If the powerhouse school could bring 20 or more kids to chapter, then they'd crowd other schools out from even having a chance to get kids to the state round. Schools that feel like they have no chance of ever qualifying anyone for state often stop participating altogether.

One state that I know of has only 4 chapters, which each one sending around 25 kids to state. One school in one of those chapters generally qualifies its entire 12 person delegation to state, leaving 13 spots for everyone else. If they were allowed to bring 20 kids, they'd likely grab at least another 6 spots.

A lot of the most competitive schools don't rely on just the school round for picking their teams, but instead consider AMC 10 scores as well as scores from other competitions. They can also make the school round more of an event, so that all of the kids in the mathcounts club get to feel like they're having a more official mathcounts experience.


Are you advocating a system where Bobby13 at Longfellow, who would have scored higher than Larla from Potomac, should be barred from chapter so Larla gets a better chance at getting a medal at chapter? Just because his parents live in a neighborhood full of mathletes?

Does Longfellow have this extended selection system?
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Post 03/20/2024 16:48     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


I wouldn't call the head to head competition a fast-paced trivia game. DS has started watching the old competitions on YouTube and the questions are not trivial. It is pretty impressive that the kids can answer some of them as fast as they do. I know that there are tricks and tips that the kids learn that help them solve the problems quickly but many of them take the kids almost the full amount of given time. I have seen a good number answered incorrectly by both kids. Overall, their performance is pretty impressive. It feels a lot like the spelling bee.

I doubt that increasing the number of kids in the state level competition is going to change much of anything. The schools that produce the top teams have a lot of kids that are really into math and study hard for the competition. They have a larger pool to draw from. I would guess that the kids who do well in math counts go on to do well on the AMC10 and AMC 12 and the competitions that are selected based on those results.


PP here. I wasn't advocating increasing the number at state, although I would condone that. I was advocating for more kids at chapter : right now, only ~12 kids get to go to chapter from Longfellow. The 13th might be really good and I'm sure many of those "13s" go on to qualify for the AIME. On the other hand, many of Longfellow's team of 12 decide not to continue math after MS and don't try for the AIME.

Given the stochasticness described above, why not be more inclusive at the chapter level? It would not come at any net cost (and may actually be revenue positive for mathcounts)


There are good reasons to restrict teams to 12 competitors each at the chapter level. In some chapters, one school is a powerhouse, and the rest aren't especially competitive. If the powerhouse school could bring 20 or more kids to chapter, then they'd crowd other schools out from even having a chance to get kids to the state round. Schools that feel like they have no chance of ever qualifying anyone for state often stop participating altogether.

One state that I know of has only 4 chapters, which each one sending around 25 kids to state. One school in one of those chapters generally qualifies its entire 12 person delegation to state, leaving 13 spots for everyone else. If they were allowed to bring 20 kids, they'd likely grab at least another 6 spots.

A lot of the most competitive schools don't rely on just the school round for picking their teams, but instead consider AMC 10 scores as well as scores from other competitions. They can also make the school round more of an event, so that all of the kids in the mathcounts club get to feel like they're having a more official mathcounts experience.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 16:37     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


I wouldn't call the head to head competition a fast-paced trivia game. DS has started watching the old competitions on YouTube and the questions are not trivial. It is pretty impressive that the kids can answer some of them as fast as they do. I know that there are tricks and tips that the kids learn that help them solve the problems quickly but many of them take the kids almost the full amount of given time. I have seen a good number answered incorrectly by both kids. Overall, their performance is pretty impressive. It feels a lot like the spelling bee.

I doubt that increasing the number of kids in the state level competition is going to change much of anything. The schools that produce the top teams have a lot of kids that are really into math and study hard for the competition. They have a larger pool to draw from. I would guess that the kids who do well in math counts go on to do well on the AMC10 and AMC 12 and the competitions that are selected based on those results.


PP here. I wasn't advocating increasing the number at state, although I would condone that. I was advocating for more kids at chapter : right now, only ~12 kids get to go to chapter from Longfellow. The 13th might be really good and I'm sure many of those "13s" go on to qualify for the AIME. On the other hand, many of Longfellow's team of 12 decide not to continue math after MS and don't try for the AIME.

Given the stochasticness described above, why not be more inclusive at the chapter level? It would not come at any net cost (and may actually be revenue positive for mathcounts)
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 16:25     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


I wouldn't call the head to head competition a fast-paced trivia game. DS has started watching the old competitions on YouTube and the questions are not trivial. It is pretty impressive that the kids can answer some of them as fast as they do. I know that there are tricks and tips that the kids learn that help them solve the problems quickly but many of them take the kids almost the full amount of given time. I have seen a good number answered incorrectly by both kids. Overall, their performance is pretty impressive. It feels a lot like the spelling bee.

I doubt that increasing the number of kids in the state level competition is going to change much of anything. The schools that produce the top teams have a lot of kids that are really into math and study hard for the competition. They have a larger pool to draw from. I would guess that the kids who do well in math counts go on to do well on the AMC10 and AMC 12 and the competitions that are selected based on those results.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 16:03     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.


That's a bit cynical. I would counter that AMC and Mathcounts combined goal is to foster interest in math by incorporating competition.

More specifically, AMC's yearly goal is to determine the US members of the IMO team by choosing six of the best math students in the US (note that I didn't say the six best). It's like the US Olympic committee... for math.

Mathcounts yearly goal is nothing of the sort - it's just to celebrate great math students between grades 6&8. It's like Little League. Given this, I think Mathcounts should cast a bigger net. Let more kids compete.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 15:19     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.


Mathcounts is not really a math competition like AMC. Its goal is not to find the best math problem solvers.

Mathcounts is an advertising campaign for math and for Mathcounts sponsors.

That's why Mathcounts uses geographic quotas at the local, state, and national level, and why the overall national winner (and some.state winners) is determined by a fast-paced trivia guessing game.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 14:41     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.mathcounts.org/programs/national-competition-participants?field_nc_team_value=va&field_nc_grade_value=All&field_nc_participant_type_value=All

Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.


Yes, the artificial skimming at the school level is bad for everyone. Two of the VA nationals team did not make top 5 at chapter, so there's obviously variation from test to test. Maybe the 6th (or 13th) highest scoring student at Carson had a bad day at the school level and didn't make the school team, but could have done better at chapter.

AMC alleviated this problem by giving two (or four) AIME qualifying tests per year. Mathcounts should also expand the number of students who can go to chapter and state.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 14:03     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.mathcounts.org/programs/national-competition-participants?field_nc_team_value=va&field_nc_grade_value=All&field_nc_participant_type_value=All

Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


It's unfair to to the kids in Fairfax.
Mathcounts uses quotas, so talented kids from "top" schools don't get to go to Chapter *at all*, due to the per school quota. Kids from schools who don't have 12 talented or interested students get to go, with school or independently, no matter their talent level.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 13:57     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.mathcounts.org/programs/national-competition-participants?field_nc_team_value=va&field_nc_grade_value=All&field_nc_participant_type_value=All

Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


The Fairfax teams tend to be stacked with kids good at math. DS will be attending Carson. I asked about MathCounts at the open house. The advisor said that they have 135 students take the test to join the 30 person club and that the team is made of the top 5 kids from that group of 30.

There are a lot of kids who participate in math competitions and math enrichment in the area. It is not surprising that the schools that find a lot of those students attending them, like the FCPS AAP Centers, end up with very strong teams. It is no different then the schools that have traditionally strong sports teams. People move to locations because they know that there are opportunities for kids who are strong in a specific area, like math in this case, or football/basketball/baseball/soccer. They know that if their kid is a talented that they stand a chance of landing a spot on a team that will give them more opportunities.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 12:52     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith


It seems unfair that the Fairfax and NOVA chapters are (almost) always the top in state.

Also, getting third in Chapter (e.g. Basis this year, Cooper other years) really hurts chances for some bright kids who might have made state otherwise.


Then the schools in the other chapters should do better. A Bull Run Chapter school came in 2nd last year-Eagle Ridge.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 12:50     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith

How did Carson beat Cooper as a team? Carson only had 1 kid in the top 12, while Cooper had 3 kids, including one who made Nationals.

Perhaps the 4th student scored much lower, while the three Carson students were just outside the top 12. Or maybe some of the Cooper top 12 didn't count towards the team score.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2024 23:41     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith

How did Carson beat Cooper as a team? Carson only had 1 kid in the top 12, while Cooper had 3 kids, including one who made Nationals.


Higher score in team round, where each problem counts 8x as much as each individual Sprint problem, and 4x as much as a target problem. The top 20 individual scores are extremely close together. One additional team problem can cover for 5-10 rating places across 4 people.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2024 22:46     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

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Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?

Longfellow,Carson,Cooper,Nysmith

How did Carson beat Cooper as a team? Carson only had 1 kid in the top 12, while Cooper had 3 kids, including one who made Nationals.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2024 20:55     Subject: Mathcounts Chapter scores

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.mathcounts.org/programs/national-competition-participants?field_nc_team_value=va&field_nc_grade_value=All&field_nc_participant_type_value=All

Congrats to the State winners!


Where can we find the state results? top ten teams/individuals?


I was about to ask too.