Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:06     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:The foster father talks about how his kids were riding around in free cars. Why didn't he stop that behavior right away? Why was he letting the kids in his charge get into these situations? What is his responsibility as a foster father??


Because the city is giving him money to foster kids he doesn't care about
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:04     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Put the kids in juvie and the parents in jail if kid commits are crime while minor and after the curfew

Have the community police its own. Crime will plummet


And make sure it's life sentence, because they won't be better when they get out. But prisons are too expensive. They should be sent to work on giant farms, planting across the nation. Call them "plantations".
And if they have more kids on the plantation, those kids should live and work there too, because they can't be free and alone.



“Because of slavery, you need to suck it up on the carjackings, whitey”
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:43     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Bottom line is that the foster father thought that there was an opportunity to invest his child in "services" after he had been arrested for carjacking and was surprised to find out that this was not the case. Only the Public Defender's announcement that " congratulations, your child has been released with no papers"

"what about services, meeting with violence interrupters, counselors, anger management etc?"

"No, you child does not get those because he did not break any laws."

"But he carjacked a car."

"But he was not tried for that. Have a great day."
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:39     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't school truancy be automated instead of having CPS have to get a warrant to access those records? Five unexcused absenses and whatever work flow process DCPS uses, the central admin emails the teacher and sends a form letter to the parents. Same thing at ten absenses. Then at 15, that letter gets CC'd via email and mail to CPS. At that point CPS can call the parents/Guardian and just start the communication process. Does the kid need transportation? Are there underlying issues?

But automate the whole process. Seriously a first year office manager could script out an entire work flow and then have automated letters in place in a day. This is soooo easy.




Also - what struck me about the Forum (and admittedly I missed part of the audience questions at the end) there was not real VICTIM representation on the panel. DC residents all over the city are being terrorized by this violence. No other way to really spin it.


Charles Allen was the crime victim on the panel. He spent the first few minutes talking about being assaulted and still bearing that trauma 15 years later.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:32     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:Put the kids in juvie and the parents in jail if kid commits are crime while minor and after the curfew

Have the community police its own. Crime will plummet


And make sure it's life sentence, because they won't be better when they get out. But prisons are too expensive. They should be sent to work on giant farms, planting across the nation. Call them "plantations".
And if they have more kids on the plantation, those kids should live and work there too, because they can't be free and alone.

Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:29     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is a wrap around service? I hear about them quite a bit.
Parents


Basically this. Like integrative or concierge medicine. Or the "emotional labor" of a mother.
Wrap around service is government provided parenting, coordinating all the individual "transactional" services like "providing food" or "school".


https://caseworthy.com/articles/what-are-wraparound-services-in-behavioral-health/
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:24     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Put the kids in juvie and the parents in jail if kid commits are crime while minor and after the curfew

Have the community police its own. Crime will plummet
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:11     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:More economic opportunity for these poor black youths who commit all these crimes would help.

Also, bring back midnight basketball.


Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:10     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
More economic opportunity for these poor black youths who commit all these crimes would help.

Also, bring back midnight basketball.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:09     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
The foster father talks about how his kids were riding around in free cars. Why didn't he stop that behavior right away? Why was he letting the kids in his charge get into these situations? What is his responsibility as a foster father??
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 11:58     Subject: Re:Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Why is there a panel discussion on carjacking with a member of city council? Do we also need a panel discussion on child molestation? No, we do not. We need elected officials who are not constantly looking for excuses for their inaction.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 11:50     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:A "wrap around service" is supposed to include a case manager that approaches the youth which just allegedly committed the crime and sitting down with them and their guardian and communicating with them. Looking at their school attendance report. Offering alternative counseling, training, experiential programs, mentorship, anger management, problem solving.

These are ALL programs that DC pays for, however, there is NO mechanism to input a potential young offender into the wrap around services and then track them and ensure that they are being given the motivation and skill to avoid repeat offending.


Are these voluntary services? I see offering so that implies there's no requirement to participate.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 11:33     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:Why can't school truancy be automated instead of having CPS have to get a warrant to access those records? Five unexcused absenses and whatever work flow process DCPS uses, the central admin emails the teacher and sends a form letter to the parents. Same thing at ten absenses. Then at 15, that letter gets CC'd via email and mail to CPS. At that point CPS can call the parents/Guardian and just start the communication process. Does the kid need transportation? Are there underlying issues?

But automate the whole process. Seriously a first year office manager could script out an entire work flow and then have automated letters in place in a day. This is soooo easy.



These teens have likely been neglected their entire lives. You think more communication to parents or guardians about truancy is going to make a difference? Do you think they'll even pick up the phone? Automated letters? There is serious denial about the pathologies creating these child criminals.

Yes - Bowser needs to activate the national guard.

Also - what struck me about the Forum (and admittedly I missed part of the audience questions at the end) there was not real VICTIM representation on the panel. DC residents all over the city are being terrorized by this violence. No other way to really spin it.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 11:25     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/hillcenter/videos/306322875304635
The DC youth crime problem rests SOLELY on our ELECTED CITY COUNCIL and their inability to actually create wrap around city services and HIRE case managers at a FRACTION of the cost of post crime hand wringing and "what about'isms"


Man, the mayor really has bamboozled everyone into thinking she has no responsibility. Who is going to hire, design, implement these services. Sure, the Council can do dumb things, but the mayor consistently budget vetos projects, doesn't spend allocated money, reprograms money with the council failing to engage in this. She's won this political battle but making you all blame the council for her inability to manage the city. It's quite stunning.


They BOTH have responsibility. We good?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 11:25     Subject: Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen
Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/hillcenter/videos/306322875304635

Stunning piece of public forum.

The grand takeaway is that Politicians are Politicians but "so what"? Where are the services and Case Managers that our appointed reps are always talking about.

If a "young person" is "no papered" we can be made to understand that non emotionally. However, why are there now no services available for that person UNTIL an actual crime is charged and the youth goes to jail. Why is the current system set up by our City Council ONLY address the problem once it hits the news or the person is convicted and released.

My take away, stop complaining about the Attorney General. Stop complaining about the US Attorney. Stop complaining about the crime lab.

The DC youth crime problem rests SOLELY on our ELECTED CITY COUNCIL and their inability to actually create wrap around city services and HIRE case managers at a FRACTION of the cost of post crime hand wringing and "what about'isms"


It’s the same old song: crime is society’s fault; the offenders are the real victims; those who own cars are, relative to those who must steal them at gunpoint, economically privileged and as beneficiaries of an unjust system kind of have it coming.