Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are a highly qualified candidate with good credentials and performance reviews, and you happen to be short in stature, do you feel like it has ever hindered you career progression?
Discrmnination due to height is very prevalent and well accepted. There are very, very few people that are short in stature in front facing leadership positions in the corporate world or in the political arena. But how has it affected you personally in real life? We are all told about having positive body acceptance, so why is discrimination based on height so well accepted across all races? Weight is something people can at least control while height is out of someone's control. Many studies have shown that people psychologically associate height with power, more competence, and leadership abilities even though it is based purely on subconscious perceptions alone.
Are hiring committees even aware of such biases based on physical appearance when evaluating candidates?
I think what has impacted me more than my height is being a woman...followed by being Hispanic.
Shorter women face no where near the same negative effects as shorter men.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are a highly qualified candidate with good credentials and performance reviews, and you happen to be short in stature, do you feel like it has ever hindered you career progression?
Discrmnination due to height is very prevalent and well accepted. There are very, very few people that are short in stature in front facing leadership positions in the corporate world or in the political arena. But how has it affected you personally in real life? We are all told about having positive body acceptance, so why is discrimination based on height so well accepted across all races? Weight is something people can at least control while height is out of someone's control. Many studies have shown that people psychologically associate height with power, more competence, and leadership abilities even though it is based purely on subconscious perceptions alone.
Are hiring committees even aware of such biases based on physical appearance when evaluating candidates?
I think what has impacted me more than my height is being a woman...followed by being Hispanic.
Shorter women face no where near the same negative effects as shorter men.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are a highly qualified candidate with good credentials and performance reviews, and you happen to be short in stature, do you feel like it has ever hindered you career progression?
Discrmnination due to height is very prevalent and well accepted. There are very, very few people that are short in stature in front facing leadership positions in the corporate world or in the political arena. But how has it affected you personally in real life? We are all told about having positive body acceptance, so why is discrimination based on height so well accepted across all races? Weight is something people can at least control while height is out of someone's control. Many studies have shown that people psychologically associate height with power, more competence, and leadership abilities even though it is based purely on subconscious perceptions alone.
Are hiring committees even aware of such biases based on physical appearance when evaluating candidates?
I think what has impacted me more than my height is being a woman...followed by being Hispanic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better a short man than a fat woman.
No it isn't. Did you read any of the linked studies at all? You can control weight. You can't do anything about height.
There are very large pay discrepancies due to height (for both men and women) while doing the same job. Most Americans are overweight, so being fat really has little bearing on job salary and promotions these days. If it is an issue, at least you can take something like mojurno to deal with it. How are you going to 'fix' someone's height though?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Heightism is far more subtle and ingrained than combating racism and gender discrimination. How often is height discrimination even discussed at any company compared to racism or gender discrimination? Heightism transcends race.
How many shorter CEOs run biotech/pharma companies? I wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys running them are over 6' tall.
Marc Casper can’t be over 5’7”. Here he is next to Deval Patrick, who’s 5’9”.
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But yes, height-based discrimination is one of the few kinds of appearance-based discrimination that affects men too. And, like all other forms of appearance-based discrimination, those who suffer are just going to have to work harder in order to be recognized.
5'9" is above average
Deval Patrick is not a biotech exec, he’s a former governor of MA. Marc Casper is the exec. And he’s definitely a few inches shorter than Patrick. Also, very rich.
OP, wear lifts. Problem solved. Oh, you don’t think it’s fair that you should have to fake it, inconvenience yourself or be uncomfortable in order to conform to social standards of attractiveness? Womankind is crying for ya.
His parents listed his marriage in the NYT, so he likely comes from a fairly well to do family. money is the best thing to stand on when short.
Anonymous wrote:If you are a highly qualified candidate with good credentials and performance reviews, and you happen to be short in stature, do you feel like it has ever hindered you career progression?
Discrmnination due to height is very prevalent and well accepted. There are very, very few people that are short in stature in front facing leadership positions in the corporate world or in the political arena. But how has it affected you personally in real life? We are all told about having positive body acceptance, so why is discrimination based on height so well accepted across all races? Weight is something people can at least control while height is out of someone's control. Many studies have shown that people psychologically associate height with power, more competence, and leadership abilities even though it is based purely on subconscious perceptions alone.
Are hiring committees even aware of such biases based on physical appearance when evaluating candidates?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Heightism is far more subtle and ingrained than combating racism and gender discrimination. How often is height discrimination even discussed at any company compared to racism or gender discrimination? Heightism transcends race.
How many shorter CEOs run biotech/pharma companies? I wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys running them are over 6' tall.
Marc Casper can’t be over 5’7”. Here he is next to Deval Patrick, who’s 5’9”.
![]()
But yes, height-based discrimination is one of the few kinds of appearance-based discrimination that affects men too. And, like all other forms of appearance-based discrimination, those who suffer are just going to have to work harder in order to be recognized.
5'9" is above average
Deval Patrick is not a biotech exec, he’s a former governor of MA. Marc Casper is the exec. And he’s definitely a few inches shorter than Patrick. Also, very rich.
OP, wear lifts. Problem solved. Oh, you don’t think it’s fair that you should have to fake it, inconvenience yourself or be uncomfortable in order to conform to social standards of attractiveness? Womankind is crying for ya.
His parents listed his marriage in the NYT, so he likely comes from a fairly well to do family. money is the best thing to stand on when short.
Marc and his bride had NYT worthy credentials before they got married. Both had Harvard graduate degrees.
Their parents don't seem to be famous.
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/21/style/weddings-denise-jefferson-marc-n-casper.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Heightism is far more subtle and ingrained than combating racism and gender discrimination. How often is height discrimination even discussed at any company compared to racism or gender discrimination? Heightism transcends race.
How many shorter CEOs run biotech/pharma companies? I wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys running them are over 6' tall.
Marc Casper can’t be over 5’7”. Here he is next to Deval Patrick, who’s 5’9”.
![]()
But yes, height-based discrimination is one of the few kinds of appearance-based discrimination that affects men too. And, like all other forms of appearance-based discrimination, those who suffer are just going to have to work harder in order to be recognized.
5'9" is above average
Deval Patrick is not a biotech exec, he’s a former governor of MA. Marc Casper is the exec. And he’s definitely a few inches shorter than Patrick. Also, very rich.
OP, wear lifts. Problem solved. Oh, you don’t think it’s fair that you should have to fake it, inconvenience yourself or be uncomfortable in order to conform to social standards of attractiveness? Womankind is crying for ya.
His parents listed his marriage in the NYT, so he likely comes from a fairly well to do family. money is the best thing to stand on when short.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Heightism is far more subtle and ingrained than combating racism and gender discrimination. How often is height discrimination even discussed at any company compared to racism or gender discrimination? Heightism transcends race.
How many shorter CEOs run biotech/pharma companies? I wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys running them are over 6' tall.
Marc Casper can’t be over 5’7”. Here he is next to Deval Patrick, who’s 5’9”.
![]()
But yes, height-based discrimination is one of the few kinds of appearance-based discrimination that affects men too. And, like all other forms of appearance-based discrimination, those who suffer are just going to have to work harder in order to be recognized.
5'9" is above average
Deval Patrick is not a biotech exec, he’s a former governor of MA. Marc Casper is the exec. And he’s definitely a few inches shorter than Patrick. Also, very rich.
OP, wear lifts. Problem solved. Oh, you don’t think it’s fair that you should have to fake it, inconvenience yourself or be uncomfortable in order to conform to social standards of attractiveness? Womankind is crying for ya.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Actually height discrimination works the other way for women. Short women have an edge over tall women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not an issue in biotech/pharma. We also have lots of women and people of color/different ethnicities, both in the employee base and in the C suite.
Heightism is far more subtle and ingrained than combating racism and gender discrimination. How often is height discrimination even discussed at any company compared to racism or gender discrimination? Heightism transcends race.
How many shorter CEOs run biotech/pharma companies? I wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys running them are over 6' tall.
Marc Casper can’t be over 5’7”. Here he is next to Deval Patrick, who’s 5’9”.
![]()
But yes, height-based discrimination is one of the few kinds of appearance-based discrimination that affects men too. And, like all other forms of appearance-based discrimination, those who suffer are just going to have to work harder in order to be recognized.
5'9" is above average
Anonymous wrote:My DH is between 5'6" and 5'7" and he's SES and very well regarded. His lower-than-average height never held him back. But he's well above average in just about every other department: smart, great social skills, funny/charming, attractive, great at his job, athletic, likeable, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL
Why is discrimination based on physical appearance funny to you?
Do you understand the concept of median? Half the entire population in the country is below the median height. You think it is funny to discriminate against that many people?
I can laugh at someone inventing a problem just for the sake of outrage.
Anonymous wrote:My DH is between 5'6" and 5'7" and he's SES and very well regarded. His lower-than-average height never held him back. But he's well above average in just about every other department: smart, great social skills, funny/charming, attractive, great at his job, athletic, likeable, etc.