Anonymous wrote:Well, I see this has quickly devolved into disrespectful comments about my community, and people who aren’t fortunate enough to have as much money and privilege as I guess some of the folks on here. I do appreciate the initial posts which actually answered my question about the school and provided helpful pros and cons based on personal experiences there.

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

IMO, it's irrelevant whether students were targeted or not. There are drug dealers and a housing project across the street. Sometimes they get in fights. A stray bullet could come right through a school window or hit a kid walking home.

HB woodlawn has had several shelter in place situations in the last few years because of proximate crimes and that isn't stopping anyone from sending their kids there.

Shootings?

no, there was a guy masturbating outside the school, a knife fight nearby (the suspect fled), and something else. So no, no stray bullets, but violent crime is about the same in each area, and I have never ever heard that be a worry with HB woodlawn.

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.

Who else remembers before they redid the park that the residents of Green Valley would sit and smoke in the park all day? While dragging all their belongings in there and just sitting. No one working a job, just sitting there smoking and drinking all day

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

IMO, it's irrelevant whether students were targeted or not. There are drug dealers and a housing project across the street. Sometimes they get in fights. A stray bullet could come right through a school window or hit a kid walking home.

HB woodlawn has had several shelter in place situations in the last few years because of proximate crimes and that isn't stopping anyone from sending their kids there.

Shootings?

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Anonymous wrote:Run

If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

IMO, it's irrelevant whether students were targeted or not. There are drug dealers and a housing project across the street. Sometimes they get in fights. A stray bullet could come right through a school window or hit a kid walking home.

HB woodlawn has had several shelter in place situations in the last few years because of proximate crimes and that isn't stopping anyone from sending their kids there.

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.

Who else remembers before they redid the park that the residents of Green Valley would sit and smoke in the park all day? While dragging all their belongings in there and just sitting. No one working a job, just sitting there smoking and drinking all day

Yes, but the people dragging all their belongings with them aren't actually residents of Green Valley. They are currently called "unhoused." Residents of the outdoors.

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.

Yes, as someone else who lives in the neighborhood, that is my point. There is a specific issue there and I don't think it could happen anywhere in the county, I've been to many of the other elementaries and very few of them have commercial or apartment buildings within a few blocks. Barrett, Fleet, Cardinal, Key, Long Branch, Innovation?

Abingdon does have apartments that are lower income (not fairlington, the other two developments including the one that borders Abingdon's open space) but doesn't have any issues I have heard of

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Anonymous wrote:Run

If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

IMO, it's irrelevant whether students were targeted or not. There are drug dealers and a housing project across the street. Sometimes they get in fights. A stray bullet could come right through a school window or hit a kid walking home.

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If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.

Yes, as someone else who lives in the neighborhood, that is my point. There is a specific issue there and I don't think it could happen anywhere in the county, I've been to many of the other elementaries and very few of them have commercial or apartment buildings within a few blocks. Barrett, Fleet, Cardinal, Key, Long Branch, Innovation?

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Anonymous wrote:Run

If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.

Who else remembers before they redid the park that the residents of Green Valley would sit and smoke in the park all day? While dragging all their belongings in there and just sitting. No one working a job, just sitting there smoking and drinking all day

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Anonymous wrote:Run

If you haven't gone there please see yourself out. Otherwise your answer comes off as "run away from black, brown and poor children"

If op’s kid isn’t one of the 60% farms students, then they will probably be fine. I’d be more concerned about the shootings that happen around there.

So, my kid was there during the shooting (if you're not familiar, a shooting happened right off of school grounds during school hours. It was targeted and students were neither the shooters nor the targets). The school went into lock down, but the classrooms did not. My kid was completely oblivious to what happened. There was good communication and there was never any threat to the students. The principal has a good relationship with the police and everything went great. I'm not saying I was happy about it or that it was okay, but that students weren't the target

And it can happen anywhere in the County.

No, I live in that neighborhood and unfortunately there is a building right near Drew (the Shelton) that does attract a lot of violence. It's usually not even Arlington residents, it's people from DC and PG (if you read the details in the crime report) who are visiting. We used to have the same problems with the motel at Glebe and 395 before they turned it into apartments/townhouses. Its not something that could happen anywhere in the County because most of the County won't let AHC build a subsidized apartment building in the neighborhood next to an elementary school.

That's an ignorant thing to say. Shootings don't only occur by affordable housing buildings. Poor neighborhoods may have a higher likelihood of crime; but no school is immune to a potential shooter or a student fight or an individual student bringing a weapon to school. The County doesn't stop gun stores or 7-11s from being near schools.

It can happen anywhere in the County

Sure, name the other APS elementary schools that have had multiple shootings next door over the last 5 years.

I live about a block from an APAH development and we do not have the rampant drinking, public urination, and drug use that Green Valley residents have been experiencing. It doesn’t help anyone to pretend there’s not a specific issue to be fixed at this location.