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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

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Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar. She would eat Trump alive, with a comb if necessary. Democrats don't find her appealing though, due to her warhawkish nature. Still, would attract the moderates and women.

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MN or a political junkie knows who she is

Errrr... You are moving your own goalposts. She ran for the nomination in 2020. Millions of Americans saw her. She was portrayed as mean as a counter to the doddering grandfather that is Biden.

DP...while people do know who she is, she wouldn't receive the same support from Black voters that Biden did. The same is true of Pete Buttigieg.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

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Anonymous wrote:Gretchen Whitmer

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MI or a political junkie knows who she is

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar. She would eat Trump alive, with a comb if necessary. Democrats don't find her appealing though, due to her warhawkish nature. Still, would attract the moderates and women.

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MN or a political junkie knows who she is

Errrr... You are moving your own goalposts. She ran for the nomination in 2020. Millions of Americans saw her. She was portrayed as mean as a counter to the doddering grandfather that is Biden.

DP...while people do know who she is, she wouldn't receive the same support from Black voters that Biden did. The same is true of Pete Buttigieg.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar. She would eat Trump alive, with a comb if necessary. Democrats don't find her appealing though, due to her warhawkish nature. Still, would attract the moderates and women.

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MN or a political junkie knows who she is

Errrr... You are moving your own goalposts. She ran for the nomination in 2020. Millions of Americans saw her. She was portrayed as mean as a counter to the doddering grandfather that is Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

You just said that have to already be in the race. Make up your mind.

OP here: List a candidate who you truly think would beat Trump if they get in the race today. I don't understand why this is so hard. People love to throw out hypotheticals and ignore reality. If some were to get in the race today, they would need to have money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition NOW.

My point is to get folks to stop complaining about If Only... and address the issue at hand. Joe Biden is the nominee. Either you want a Democrat to win or you want Trump. If you don't want Trump, that is Biden. There is no alternative.

So tired of the argument “but Trump is worse so vote for me” No thanks. I would rather sit this one out or vote my conscience.

Haha, joke's on you. Might not be any more votes after Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

I don’t want to do the work. Voted for Biden in 2020 but he has been such a disappointment so definitely not voting for him again. He has not delivered on his campaign promises. He is just an old senile man propped up by the Democratic establishment because they wanted a white man to defeat Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

You just said that have to already be in the race. Make up your mind.

OP here: List a candidate who you truly think would beat Trump if they get in the race today. I don't understand why this is so hard. People love to throw out hypotheticals and ignore reality. If some were to get in the race today, they would need to have money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition NOW.

My point is to get folks to stop complaining about If Only... and address the issue at hand. Joe Biden is the nominee. Either you want a Democrat to win or you want Trump. If you don't want Trump, that is Biden. There is no alternative.

So tired of the argument “but Trump is worse so vote for me” No thanks. I would rather sit this one out or vote my conscience.