Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 19:09     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


newsflash, Chi O is NOT considered the "lowest tier" at UVA. KD IS in the lowest tier at UVA though. It does not matter!! And it's all stupid, they are all great organizations with awesome people!


LOL pp’s kid must be Chi-O
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:42     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:But why are all of you speaking about tiers? It’s only matters if you make it matter otherwise it’s just some imagined social construct


Social construct yes. But very much real and not imagined. You clearly haven’t lived in this sort of environment and for that I consider you lucky.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:41     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


Definitely random because Chi O is top tier at SMU and it doesn’t get more southern than that.


I mean at my school in the Midwest in the 1980s Chi O was the fat girl sorority. So. But definitely bottom tier in Virginia for some reason.

And SMU? That’s… random.


Not random at all. Greek life is about wealth and prestige and that’s pretty much all SMU is about 😂
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:39     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


Definitely random because Chi O is top tier at SMU and it doesn’t get more southern than that.


I mean at my school in the Midwest in the 1980s Chi O was the fat girl sorority. So. But definitely bottom tier in Virginia for some reason.

And SMU? That’s… random.


SMU rush was a thing on TikTok this year. It’s like Alabama last year.

https://www.tiktok.com/@flawlessnina/video/7323335474209295662


That … doesn’t make it relevant
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:38     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


Definitely random because Chi O is top tier at SMU and it doesn’t get more southern than that.


I mean at my school in the Midwest in the 1980s Chi O was the fat girl sorority. So. But definitely bottom tier in Virginia for some reason.

And SMU? That’s… random.


SMU rush was a thing on TikTok this year. It’s like Alabama last year.

https://www.tiktok.com/@flawlessnina/video/7323335474209295662
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:35     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


Definitely random because Chi O is top tier at SMU and it doesn’t get more southern than that.


I mean at my school in the Midwest in the 1980s Chi O was the fat girl sorority. So. But definitely bottom tier in Virginia for some reason.

And SMU? That’s… random.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:33     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!


Trust me, those "higher tier" frats are not places you want her! I may be an old curmudgeon but the amount of drug use I hear about in the greek system, especially those houses, would make you want her to stay far, far away. and I'm not talking about weed, which is everywhere.


UVA specifically or just the Greek system in general?


UVA Greek system. I’m generally a fan and was Greek but it’s bad, really bad.



It’s only 26 percent participation (Wash and Lee is over 85 percent participation). Just don’t participate! Stop
Judging. My kid did UVA and never once stepped in a house. Your kid can make that choice, too


I'm not judging, my kids are/have been greek at UVA. Just saying if you're looking for hard drugs go to any of the "top tier" frats. I'm personally glad my DD does not interact with them and does not want to. I'm 100% sure it's the same at every other college right now.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:32     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


newsflash, Chi O is NOT considered the "lowest tier" at UVA. KD IS in the lowest tier at UVA though. It does not matter!! And it's all stupid, they are all great organizations with awesome people!
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:32     Subject: UVA rush

But why are all of you speaking about tiers? It’s only matters if you make it matter otherwise it’s just some imagined social construct
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:32     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.


Definitely random because Chi O is top tier at SMU and it doesn’t get more southern than that.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:28     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. There are always people who won’t say publicly but they think of the Greek houses in tiers. I believe there’s a website that even ranks them by school.

From my uva days, the top sororities were kkg, tri delt, theta, and pi phi. Doubt it’s changed much. Fraternities had a similar pecking order.


How (and why) do you remember that!


I’m pretty sure anyone who went to a Greek dominated school would remember these details. I certainly remember that that top sororities at wake forest in 1999 were KKG, Chi O and Pi Phi. It’s not an insignificant detail of college if you go to a big greek school.


It’s interesting because Chi O is lowest tier at both UVa and VT


the "ranks" are different at every school. Kappa is top at UVA and bottom at another school which I can't recall right now LOL. Chi O is a very southern sorority, founded at U Arkansas, and tends to better in the south where there is a lot of cache to being a Chi O and legacies going back generations.


I know. UVA is a southern school. It’s just considered lowest tier at both UVa and VT. But yes different at every school

KD is top tier at VT but mid-tier at UVa, for example.

It’s all very random.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:26     Subject: UVA rush

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got dropped from her top two choices. I think it is House Tours day today. She is not thrilled. I told her to go through the motions. She might end up clicking with another house. Personally, I would have preferred she never rush, yet here I am still encouraging her to continue with the process. I guess this will be one of many growing experiences in life, and it won’t be the end of she does not end up joining a sorority.


Please tell her to continue. Looking back the houses that seemed the closest were not the top few. Sometimes things work out when you least expect.


Just curious. Why do you care whether or not PPs daughter joins a sorority?

I’m beginning to think the whole thing is a big money scam, with some of these groups desperate for any members that can pay.


This is an interesting take. I also have no idea why some parents would be in favor of greek


life. It seems really obnoxious.


It’s an ignorant take. The PP knows nothing about Greek life finances or who pays for those houses. I’m not Greek but even I know this! Read a bit before ignorantly posting junk
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:25     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid says a some of the “top” sororities are filled with NE boarding school students. If that is true, I guess my kid will not ne accepted by that one for sure. She is a URM from a lower ranked fcps high school. Looks like elitism is alive and well at UVA. Yeah, I shouldn’t really be surprised. It’s just sad my kid has to face this is how things still work in certain circles. I tried to warn her, so would temper her expectations. I still hope she can either match with a house she likes or drop the whole thing, and just move on with college life.

I think one of her major concerns is not being able to attend some of the frat parties. Oh well, she will be just fine! Maybe she will finally listen to me and try out for the ultimate frisbee team!


Trust me, those "higher tier" frats are not places you want her! I may be an old curmudgeon but the amount of drug use I hear about in the greek system, especially those houses, would make you want her to stay far, far away. and I'm not talking about weed, which is everywhere.


UVA specifically or just the Greek system in general?


UVA Greek system. I’m generally a fan and was Greek but it’s bad, really bad.



It’s only 26 percent participation (Wash and Lee is over 85 percent participation). Just don’t participate! Stop
Judging. My kid did UVA and never once stepped in a house. Your kid can make that choice, too
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:21     Subject: UVA rush

Oh btw, this thread pops up every year at this time on this board too, do a search.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 18:18     Subject: UVA rush

Anonymous wrote:All the girls that rush want the top 3 houses (the actual top sororities will vary by school). Yes, they go through the instagrams to figure out if you were popular in high school, which private school you went to, sleepaway camp, etc. Also to see how you dress, your HHI, etc. This 100% happens at every school.


You're wrong, not everyone wants the top 3. My DD went in knowing she wouldn't fit with those girls and knew she'd be dropped, which she of course she was. She did say they were very nice and she was pleasantly surprised by them. But it is absolutely about wealth and connections in those sororities and at UVA those girls come from boarding schools in the Northeast. If you are not already known to them before rush, you're probably not getting in, even if you're a legacy.