Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there are some students that won't go south of the Mason Dixon line.

But is that really affecting anything at Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, UNC, Texas, UVA, Georgia Tech, and Florida?

Don't think so.

Harvard apps were down 19 percent this year. Pretty sure Florida is not having the same issue.

Wrong

We are no longer hiring from
Florida schools. Good luck with your kid getting a job.

What loving parent sends their kid to a school that stopped science in academics

Don’t apply to med school or grad school for engineering anywhere else your degree is now worthless

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m hearing, but I’m not sure if it’s wishful thinking or a real thing.

Any insight?

From what I’m seeing, plenty of northerners are flocking to southern schools—including SEC universities.

What are you seeing in the latest round of applications and admissions?

You are a moron

What do you not understand about accreditation of colleges.

No northerners are not flooding the state.

As a matter of fact Florida schools are going to be unaccredited by 2025. Yes fact you are too dumb to have figured this out.

DeSantis has started with UG and New college.

You think science will be taught?

Professors are leaving in droves Shands hospital has lost almost all its talent.

I pulled my millions of scholarship monies so did many others from
UF

Florida just banned dictionaries I’m
Sure your stupid kid won’t get into any Florida college.

Signed founder of largest gift giving family to UF

And you think you idiot kid will get a job coming out of a Florida college lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/03/us/florida-professors-education-desantis.html
https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/07/06/are-florida-laws-chasing-university-faculty-away-some-see-brain-drain/
https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/07/07/florida-universities-see-faculty-resignations-spike-amid-new-state-laws/

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2023/05/06/here-is-why-teachers-are-fleeing-florida-classrooms-column/
https://www.flmedical.org/florida/Florida_Public/News/2022/Florida%E2%80%99s_physician_shortage.aspx
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/30/florida-universities-colleges-faculty-leaving-desantis

Doctors and teachers leaving their professions in Florida. Florida is headed off a cliff. Shortage of teachers and doctors fed up and leaving or just changing professions. And then you have 1000 physicians practicing without medical licenses.
https://www.wftv.com/news/9investigates/nearly-1000-physicians-practicing-florida-not-qualified-fully-licensed-doctors-medicine/JZXBDIUIRFG65MBREUW66CBOBU/

Definitely not! There is plenty of OOS competition for Florida schools (not just University of Florida and Florida State), but even UCF, USF and others because Florida public schools are often more affordable than the in-state schools in other states. In some cases, even the out of costs are the same or less. Also, some Florida schools offer in-state tuition based on merit or something called a Grandparent Waiver. No matter what schools you choose, there will be both liberals and conservatives. I do think that Florida schools have had an increase in applications due to the increase in reputation, quality and lower costs. Also, the competition for OOS students is elevated further because I think that there is a 10% cap on the # of OOS students that the Florida publics will accept. National Merit Finalists can get practically full rides to Florida publics (not sure if it is all or just some).

I'm sure there are some students that won't go south of the Mason Dixon line.

But is that really affecting anything at Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, UNC, Texas, UVA, Georgia Tech, and Florida?

Don't think so.

Harvard apps were down 19 percent this year. Pretty sure Florida is not having the same issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

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While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

A LOT has changed for Florida State colleges in the last two years.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly a troll post, but this is not happening.

The reason northerners "avoid" Florida colleges is that with the exceptions of UF and maybe Florida State for NMS they always have better and cheaper choices in their home state.

It's not a political, religious, or ethically based choice. No matter how much you trolls wish it were.

The number one reason kids from the north DO choose a Florida college is the same reason everyone who moves to Florida does: the weather.

Cost is a major factor too.

But Alabama and the like are as sunny, as inexpensive (or better for high stats), about the same prestige, also in a red state for kids who want that— and don’t have the “what is DeSantis going to do to education next” factor. At some point lack of intellectual freedom makes FL the state equivalent of Liberty— which is to say a less valuable degree in many areas.

Anonymous wrote:The people who say they will boycott colleges in Florida, Texas, NC, whatever,
are the same who threatened to leave the country if Trump (or fill in the name of whichever Republican was running in various years) won the election. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise—they are all still here.

Because they discovered that it's not that easy to emigrate. If you recall, after Trump won in 2016, the Canadian immigration website crashed.

UF alum who won't let my DD consider FL schools. My parents live there and we make them come to us. Haven't been to FL in years and don't plan to start now.

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m hearing, but I’m not sure if it’s wishful thinking or a real thing.

Any insight?

From what I’m seeing, plenty of northerners are flocking to southern schools—including SEC universities.

What are you seeing in the latest round of applications and admissions?

No I do not think there has been any drop off. I would not expect one either.

Anonymous wrote:People here VASTLY overestimate the effect local politics has on a college’s applicants. Have Texas and Rice suffered? Most DCUMers would donate a kidney to get into Rice. They’ve been conservative forever. When Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Trump, did that negatively impact apps to UMichigan or Penn or CMU or Swarthmore? People flood Duke and UNCCH and Davidson. Why do you think Florida is somehow the one place people would avoid going because of its politic?

We both went to Rice, but our daughter's will not apply. TX was not that great then and is worse now. Even with Rice campus and WestU being nice it's just not worth to spend those years there. We both were from the NE and were glad to get out of TX after our years there.

I am very glad that neither of my kids wanted to go to Florida. We are a Florida State family and typically I would've been encouraging my kids as an alumni. But after what DeSantis has been doing to the education system and is putting his fingers in the college education system, I don't think a Florida degree will be worth as much in future years. Very glad that my kids are going to schools closer to here.

Also, one of my kids is a girl, so doubly glad that she did not want to go to Florida she's very happy at University of Maryland

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m hearing, but I’m not sure if it’s wishful thinking or a real thing.

Any insight?

From what I’m seeing, plenty of northerners are flocking to southern schools—including SEC universities.

What are you seeing in the latest round of applications and admissions?

You are a moron

What do you not understand about accreditation of colleges.

No northerners are not flooding the state.

As a matter of fact Florida schools are going to be unaccredited by 2025. Yes fact you are too dumb to have figured this out.

DeSantis has started with UG and New college.

You think science will be taught?

Professors are leaving in droves Shands hospital has lost almost all its talent.

I pulled my millions of scholarship monies so did many others from
UF

Florida just banned dictionaries I’m
Sure your stupid kid won’t get into any Florida college.

Signed founder of largest gift giving family to UF

And you think you idiot kid will get a job coming out of a Florida college lol

Anonymous wrote:Speaking for all the blue folks in Florida, while we know the answer to many of Florida's problems is for more blue folks to move here and go to school here, not less, I think it's also true that the stupid liberals might as well stay away because they won't be any help down here at all.

Yeah, it’s probably for the best that the dim loud ones are loudly staying away.

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

'

While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

Speaking for all the blue folks in Florida, while we know the answer to many of Florida's problems is for more blue folks to move here and go to school here, not less, I think it's also true that the stupid liberals might as well stay away because they won't be any help down here at all.