Anonymous wrote:And curious if there is a subset that there are no disagreements about?

One of biggest mistakes new parents make is to ignore what their kid wants to focus on. Yale is amazing but STEM kids from our private school are often disappointed at the lesser strength of its STEM departments. Duke is much stronger in certain areas than others. Cornell is very strong in CS and Engineering, less so in Humanities.

So please think about top 10 at least somewhat in the context of what your kids is broadly interested in.

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Chicago / Brown / Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:According to US News there are 11 top 10 schools. Who gets kicked out: Brown, John Hopkins, or Northwestern?

Realistically there are about 12-15 schools that could realistically be considered "top 10" caliber, but let's be real. Brown is not a serious university.

I'd there are 15 T10 schools then there are 25 T20 schools then, right?

Better to just say the current USNWR ranking of a school than put it into a questionable tier.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US News there are 11 top 10 schools. Who gets kicked out: Brown, John Hopkins, or Northwestern?

Realistically there are about 12-15 schools that could realistically be considered "top 10" caliber, but let's be real. Brown is not a serious university.

I'd there are 15 T10 schools then there are 25 T20 schools then, right?

Anonymous wrote:And curious if there is a subset that there are no disagreements about?

No, on DCUM there are disagreements about everything, including yesterday’s weather (i.e., something which was actually measured by NWS) in DC.

Lmao there’s a Rice booster on this thread…

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Princeton
MIT
UChicago
Columbia
Penn
Northwestern
Duke

As research schools: HYPSM in Tier 1, followed by Penn, Columbia, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Hopkins, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon in Tier 2, followed by Brown, Georgetown, Vanderbilt in Tier 3

From a teaching standpoint, Brown and Georgetown jump up into Tier 2 at least. Throw in the LACs too.

Trust me, they'd rather go to Columbia than to Vanderbilt. They just can't get in.

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MIT
Stanford
Princeton
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Penn
Yale
Rice
Northwestern/ Chicago/ Vanderbilt/ Brown

Vanderbilt and Rice above Columbia these days? Why don't you ask your kids at GDS or Sidwell which of these schools they'd rather attend.

Ask them yourself. Columbia is not a happy school.

Anonymous wrote:These days?

MIT
Stanford
Princeton
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Penn
Yale
Rice
Northwestern/ Chicago/ Vanderbilt/ Brown

Vanderbilt and Rice above Columbia these days? Why don't you ask your kids at GDS or Sidwell which of these schools they'd rather attend.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US News there are 11 top 10 schools. Who gets kicked out: Brown, John Hopkins, or Northwestern?

Realistically there are about 12-15 schools that could realistically be considered "top 10" caliber, but let's be real. Brown is not a serious university.

Agreed, Brown does not have any top academic departments. Just seems like a school to hang out at.

Oh jeezus h Brown has plenty of top departments, applied math for starters, and a top faculty including a Nobel winner in physics.

What’s with people here? Are you idiots or trolls?

Brown does have a great applied math department, but it simply doesn't have the same academic strengths across the board or even really any field-defining departments in the way some of these other schools do. Its most notable feature is that it's in the Ivy League coupled with the fact that prospective undergrads want to go there because of its open curriculum.

Great so you’ve gone from they don’t have any top programs to they have only a few top programs and I’m sure if I list other programs they have that are highly regarded you’ll change your tune again.

I’m at the point here where I think nobody should read any of these threads at all because they’re all full of trolls and bullshit.

You’re mixing me up with another poster

Applies to both of you. But try using “DP” next time.

These days?

MIT
Stanford
Princeton
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Penn
Yale
Rice
Northwestern/ Chicago/ Vanderbilt/ Brown

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is better at more things then Northwestern. It just is.

Great reasoning. “It just is” is always so convincing. I don’t know why people bother with facts & evidence when “it just is” works so well. Good luck with that law career.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US News there are 11 top 10 schools. Who gets kicked out: Brown, John Hopkins, or Northwestern?

Realistically there are about 12-15 schools that could realistically be considered "top 10" caliber, but let's be real. Brown is not a serious university.

Agreed, Brown does not have any top academic departments. Just seems like a school to hang out at.

Oh jeezus h Brown has plenty of top departments, applied math for starters, and a top faculty including a Nobel winner in physics.

What’s with people here? Are you idiots or trolls?

Brown does have a great applied math department, but it simply doesn't have the same academic strengths across the board or even really any field-defining departments in the way some of these other schools do. Its most notable feature is that it's in the Ivy League coupled with the fact that prospective undergrads want to go there because of its open curriculum.

Great so you’ve gone from they don’t have any top programs to they have only a few top programs and I’m sure if I list other programs they have that are highly regarded you’ll change your tune again.

I’m at the point here where I think nobody should read any of these threads at all because they’re all full of trolls and bullshit.

You’re mixing me up with another poster

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Anonymous wrote:According to US News there are 11 top 10 schools. Who gets kicked out: Brown, John Hopkins, or Northwestern?

Realistically there are about 12-15 schools that could realistically be considered "top 10" caliber, but let's be real. Brown is not a serious university.

Agreed, Brown does not have any top academic departments. Just seems like a school to hang out at.

Please tell us about all the top ten departments at Duke.

Biomedical engineering for starters. Absolutely top-notch along with MIT, Hopkins and a few others. A bunch of programs in the school of public policy are top 10 as well (and at least one or two others in the engineering school).

Duke's law school and medical school are also solidly top 10. Duke's business school (Fuqua) is considered just outside the top 10. Having 2/3 of the key three professional programs ranked as top 10 in their respective fields isn't so bad, especially since Princeton doesn't have any professional schools, while MIT doesn't have a medical school or a law school.

I think we are trying to discuss top 10 for undergraduates.