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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

My kid is a high school junior and two years ago I’d never heard of Bucknell or Wesleyan. I would have had no particular opinion about the “smartness” of the graduates of either. I suspect the general public name recognition of either is not high. Even now that I know more about Wes and have even visited it, I’m not sure the “prestige” is worth the extra money compared to a good in-state option.

The number of kids who are “not your crowd” will matter a lot more at a small school than a big one. But if your kid knows going into it that he’s unlikely to fit in, go for it I guess.

Let’s take a step back here. Are we saying a relatively conventional non-LGBTQ sort of preppy athletic kid cannot attend a SLAC unless it’s one of a handful of Bucknell-like ones ?

No. They can attend whatever school they think they want. But they should be aware that there may be social challenges for them at many small SLACs.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

My kid is a high school junior and two years ago I’d never heard of Bucknell or Wesleyan. I would have had no particular opinion about the “smartness” of the graduates of either. I suspect the general public name recognition of either is not high. Even now that I know more about Wes and have even visited it, I’m not sure the “prestige” is worth the extra money compared to a good in-state option.

The number of kids who are “not your crowd” will matter a lot more at a small school than a big one. But if your kid knows going into it that he’s unlikely to fit in, go for it I guess.

Let’s take a step back here. Are we saying a relatively conventional non-LGBTQ sort of preppy athletic kid cannot attend a SLAC unless it’s one of a handful of Bucknell-like ones ?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

My kid is a high school junior and two years ago I’d never heard of Bucknell or Wesleyan. I would have had no particular opinion about the “smartness” of the graduates of either. I suspect the general public name recognition of either is not high. Even now that I know more about Wes and have even visited it, I’m not sure the “prestige” is worth the extra money compared to a good in-state option.

The number of kids who are “not your crowd” will matter a lot more at a small school than a big one. But if your kid knows going into it that he’s unlikely to fit in, go for it I guess.

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There’s three groups of equally strong artsy kids, athletes, and political activists at Wes. Big LGBTQ scene as well. He’ll probably find his own crowd somewhere.

If your kid is not artsy, is not a "political activist" (woke) type, is not LGBTQ, and is athletic but not a recruited athlete, then he may have considerable trouble "finding his own crowd" at Wes or at any other SLAC. These schools simply do not admit a lot of normal regular white guys.

If you're not on a team, sorry, those guys on the team will hang out with each other for obvious reasons, but they are not as likely to hang out with you. You're just not doing all the same things as them - training, practice, away games.

Such an ignorant comment from someone who clearly knows little about SLACs.

DS went to Williams, try again.

LOL! I have a feeling that your kid went to Roger Williams University, not Williams College. Apple: meet tree.

LOL you are wrong and stupidly determined to keep being wrong.
As they say, you can’t fix stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

To be honest, I think my kid should go to a school that has as good a reputation and opens as many doors as possible. Your comment is like telling a conservative person to go to Hillsdale instead of Harvard. Just because one personality type or viewpoint is heavily represented at any particular educational institution, it doesn’t mean people who don’t fall in line with that should be relegated to lesser institutions.

It’s interesting that the same people who go around claiming “diversity” is the end all be all and essential for a college experience also seem to preach “fit” which is a form of social segregation.

Oh good lord, listen to yourself. You are ridiculous.

Your original question is about fit—is Wesleyan a good place for a “normie athletic male.” People are telling you that it might not be the best fit, so you’ve decided it’s the liberal establishment trying to exclude your beautiful boy from the highest tiers of academia. LOL.

Well, people aren't quite saying that. Look, obviously if you skew conservative in your outlook (socially, politically, etc) most of the elite colleges in the US will have irksome elements. The question is, is it manageable or overwhelming? We really need a ranking system for this. Like a 1 for Hillsdale and a 10 for Oberlin.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

To be honest, I think my kid should go to a school that has as good a reputation and opens as many doors as possible. Your comment is like telling a conservative person to go to Hillsdale instead of Harvard. Just because one personality type or viewpoint is heavily represented at any particular educational institution, it doesn’t mean people who don’t fall in line with that should be relegated to lesser institutions.

It’s interesting that the same people who go around claiming “diversity” is the end all be all and essential for a college experience also seem to preach “fit” which is a form of social segregation.

Oh good lord, listen to yourself. You are ridiculous.

Your original question is about fit—is Wesleyan a good place for a “normie athletic male.” People are telling you that it might not be the best fit, so you’ve decided it’s the liberal establishment trying to exclude your beautiful boy from the highest tiers of academia. LOL.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, all the guys I know who went to Wesleyan are like this.

Exactly, how is this even a question.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

To be honest, I think my kid should go to a school that has as good a reputation and opens as many doors as possible. Your comment is like telling a conservative person to go to Hillsdale instead of Harvard. Just because one personality type or viewpoint is heavily represented at any particular educational institution, it doesn’t mean people who don’t fall in line with that should be relegated to lesser institutions.

It’s interesting that the same people who go around claiming “diversity” is the end all be all and essential for a college experience also seem to preach “fit” which is a form of social segregation.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

Heaven forbid OP doesn’t get the right street cred from the bumper sticker on the back of her XC90.

LOL. You have no idea what you are talking about. It's an XC60. (It actually is. Our other vehicle is the large SUV)

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

Heaven forbid OP doesn’t get the right street cred from the bumper sticker on the back of her XC90.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

So, you think your kid should go to a school where most of the kids aren’t his “cup of tea” just because it might have a marginally better academic reputation than a school that might be a better cultural fit? I truly can’t imagine making a decision about college this way. Fit should come first.

(Also, the idea that “alternative-type kids” are just atmosphere or something for the normies is really something. If your kid thinks like you do, Wes would be a terrible fit for him.)

University of Richmond sounds like a good fit.

OP here. DS will likely either be recruited or a walk on. I get that schools like Bucknell are more “normie” but I think Wes is a notch above academically and prestige wise. When I hear Bucknell, I think smart. When I hear Wes, I think really smart. Hence it seems worth considering even if a large swath of the student population isn’t necessarily my DS’s cup of tea. (This being said, it wouldn’t be a college experience if there were not some alternative type kids floating around.)

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There’s three groups of equally strong artsy kids, athletes, and political activists at Wes. Big LGBTQ scene as well. He’ll probably find his own crowd somewhere.

If your kid is not artsy, is not a "political activist" (woke) type, is not LGBTQ, and is athletic but not a recruited athlete, then he may have considerable trouble "finding his own crowd" at Wes or at any other SLAC. These schools simply do not admit a lot of normal regular white guys.

If you're not on a team, sorry, those guys on the team will hang out with each other for obvious reasons, but they are not as likely to hang out with you. You're just not doing all the same things as them - training, practice, away games.

Such an ignorant comment from someone who clearly knows little about SLACs.

DS went to Williams, try again.

LOL! I have a feeling that your kid went to Roger Williams University, not Williams College. Apple: meet tree.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds to me like Trinity would be a better fit, if he wants to go into finance. My DS was turned off by Trinity due to its Wall Street connections.

Bucknell and Union are worth a look, too.