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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

So?

Because the result is absurd overcrowding at the largest (by a long shot!) middle school and high school.

Besides the discomfort of crowded halls and cafeterias, the imbalance has lots of downsides.

At Deal and J-R, it means exceedingly large classes, sports teams that are very hard to get on and then are unbeatable, and very long commutes for some students.

For other schools, it means a dearth of enrolled IB students and always being outshined in academics, athletics, and extra-curriculars.

It's bad for DCPS and city residents to have such a tilted school system.

Demographics start off tilted, but rather the OOB policies worsen the dynamic.

I’ll add that this is just one more way wealthy parents buy their way into what they want. I see a lot of judgement from people on DCUM saying poor parents “should plan better,” or “make better choices in life” so that they can live in bounds for better schools. I have never seen that kind of condemnation for parents who lie and rent an apartment so their kid can go to a certain school. And let’s be honest—parents who do that are not actually moving into those studios they rent just to get their kid in the school. And then those schools become so overcrowded, in part due to this kind of gaming, that there is no way a kid from a family not gaming the system will ever be able to lottery in.

It’s allowed. No lie needed.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

So?

Because the result is absurd overcrowding at the largest (by a long shot!) middle school and high school.

Besides the discomfort of crowded halls and cafeterias, the imbalance has lots of downsides.

At Deal and J-R, it means exceedingly large classes, sports teams that are very hard to get on and then are unbeatable, and very long commutes for some students.

For other schools, it means a dearth of enrolled IB students and always being outshined in academics, athletics, and extra-curriculars.

It's bad for DCPS and city residents to have such a tilted school system.

Demographics start off tilted, but rather the OOB policies worsen the dynamic.

I’ll add that this is just one more way wealthy parents buy their way into what they want. I see a lot of judgement from people on DCUM saying poor parents “should plan better,” or “make better choices in life” so that they can live in bounds for better schools. I have never seen that kind of condemnation for parents who lie and rent an apartment so their kid can go to a certain school. And let’s be honest—parents who do that are not actually moving into those studios they rent just to get their kid in the school. And then those schools become so overcrowded, in part due to this kind of gaming, that there is no way a kid from a family not gaming the system will ever be able to lottery in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

So?

Because the result is absurd overcrowding at the largest (by a long shot!) middle school and high school.

Besides the discomfort of crowded halls and cafeterias, the imbalance has lots of downsides.

At Deal and J-R, it means exceedingly large classes, sports teams that are very hard to get on and then are unbeatable, and very long commutes for some students.

For other schools, it means a dearth of enrolled IB students and always being outshined in academics, athletics, and extra-curriculars.

It's bad for DCPS and city residents to have such a tilted school system.

Demographics start off tilted, but rather the OOB policies worsen the dynamic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

So?

Anonymous wrote:This can become a widespread problem if there’s an influx of people who catch on to this loophole.

Anonymous wrote:This can become a widespread problem if there’s an influx of people who catch on to this loophole.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

So?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

And yet this is a perennial question on this board. How long do I have to rent in W3 before my pre4 kid has rights all the way through Whatever ES even when I move back to a neighborhood where I won’t use the IB school?

My kids aren’t in W3 schools but it’s pretty obvious that this is what’s going on in this OP.

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

I suspect that's not the case. *A lot* of people do it for Deal/JR purposes.

But no one has the data to really know.

I think this information should be centralized with myschooldc/osse so there could be data on it. And then it should be programmed in along with the student's ID number so the policy of not getting rights to the destination school can actually be enforced.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.

I suspect that's not the case. *A lot* of people do it for Deal/JR purposes.

But no one has the data to really know.

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Anonymous wrote:We are attending inboundary 5th grade renting and I wanted to do lottery for the out of boundary home I own but it said I automatically qualified for both the current sixth grade feeder and inboundary MS where I own so it didn’t even let me rank the feeder MS

Interesting, how did the application know you had the OOB home? Did you enter that information somewhere?

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.