Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 17:37     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Always with the head tilt, lowering expectations. Good for this reporter. Of course the Council could have and act with a sense of urgency. Yet they do not.



He appears to not understand the gravity of the situation. At all.


He’s completely unimpressive. So crime is his #1 priority? How many crime related bills has he introduced? Wait for it. . . . . Zero.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 17:35     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

I cannot imagine this poor mom, her daughter an honors student, home from college, you get a call in the middle of the night she was shot to death in Friendship Heights.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 17:31     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:For those who were actually here in the 90s, remember how shook everyone was by the Starbucks murders?

Would that even make a dent today or just be basically what happens and we're all used to it.


I have never forgotten the girl who was abducted and murdered walking from Starbucks on R St n DuPont on a Sunday afternoon or the girl who was murdered getting into her apartment in Kalorama Triangle with her groceries - the '90s were out of control crime wise
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 17:26     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.


So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you


Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.


Nope, not DSA. Nor do I think that victims don't matter. Just another DC citizen with a voice and opinion that carries equal weight to yours.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 17:15     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:Always with the head tilt, lowering expectations. Good for this reporter. Of course the Council could have and act with a sense of urgency. Yet they do not.



He appears to not understand the gravity of the situation. At all.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:20     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

There is a reward but no arrests.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woman-killed-at-friendship-heights-hotel-in-dcs-1st-homicide-of-2024/3504663/

An 18 year old cannot rent a hotel room, who was the party host? Surprised that a nice DC hotel would still be allowing these large parties in single rooms after the Days Inn shooting. Need better control by front desk, and aren't fobs required for elevators in most hotels?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:12     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.


So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you


Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.




All of this.
x 1,000.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:09     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.


So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you


Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 13:53     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:I find the “Teens Run DC” jacket he’s wearing to talk about (yet another) shooting involving a teen to be the *chef’s kiss*. Yes genius, teens are kind of running DC, but not in a positive way.


Whoa. He didn't catch the irony? Incredible. How much more tone deaf can these folks possibly be.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 13:47     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

I find the “Teens Run DC” jacket he’s wearing to talk about (yet another) shooting involving a teen to be the *chef’s kiss*. Yes genius, teens are kind of running DC, but not in a positive way.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 12:09     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.


So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 11:29     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Always with the head tilt, lowering expectations. Good for this reporter. Of course the Council could have and act with a sense of urgency. Yet they do not.



During the vote on Pinto's emergency bill in June, even criminal coddling Nadeau, Allen and Mendelson voted "yes" without fanfare. JLG voted "no." Frumin echoed JLG points at some length before grudgingly voting "yes" and saying many provisions re: juveniles would need to be revisited. He was under a lot of pressure from W3 to vote yes but clearly would have followed his heart re: JLG if he thought he could possibly get away with it. This whole statement here is disingenuous and BS.

Goulet would have been much better re: crime. Silverman and others screwed the pooch to make sure that did not happen.


Chair”person” Pinto? Not Chair Pinto or Chairwoman Pinto? How someone in their 60s managed to get himself indoctrinated like he’s a hysterical 18 year old Harvard student is beyond me. It’s obviously embarrassing. But if this is how he speaks in normal conversation we’re all doomed.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 10:47     Subject: Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts.

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 10:41     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:Always with the head tilt, lowering expectations. Good for this reporter. Of course the Council could have and act with a sense of urgency. Yet they do not.



During the vote on Pinto's emergency bill in June, even criminal coddling Nadeau, Allen and Mendelson voted "yes" without fanfare. JLG voted "no." Frumin echoed JLG points at some length before grudgingly voting "yes" and saying many provisions re: juveniles would need to be revisited. He was under a lot of pressure from W3 to vote yes but clearly would have followed his heart re: JLG if he thought he could possibly get away with it. This whole statement here is disingenuous and BS.

Goulet would have been much better re: crime. Silverman and others screwed the pooch to make sure that did not happen.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 10:36     Subject: Re:Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The police are just the first step in the process. Are people unaware that the federally appointed USAO Matt Graves declines to prosecute 67% of adult (and some juv) arrests, including felonies and gun crimes and elected AG Schwab does only slightly more prosecuting of juveniles? Both will be there and should feel pressure from the public re: safety. Graves can boost the numbers when he is under Congressional pressure or media scrutiny, then they drop again.

Prior to 2017, across USAOs appointed by Ds and Rs, the prosecution rate was in the 70s and the community was much safer. Now that stat has almost been flipped. We can see the result of 2/3 of arrests of adults NOT being prosecuted. 1,000 warrants for failure to appear or being non-compliant with terms of release have not been served, if federal marshals picked up those people, crime would plummet.

Frumin has little to do with the prosecution process or with much of the work of MPD.


Those are amazing statistics. Why does Graves decline to prosecute? Has he said why?

I've seen a lot of media attention focused on DC crime lately -- do reporters not follow up with Graves to see what happened?

Is Frumin calling out Graves for this?


Frumin's views on crime are closer to JLG than Pinto. So, lol.