Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 23:17     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
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Anonymous wrote:So in DC criminals can be treated as “juveniles” up to the age of 24 or 25 because their brains are still developing. But vote at 14 — no problem!


+1000 double standard


There is no double-standard.

The voting age in local elections has long been 16.


This is just false. Nobody under the age of 18 has ever voted in a city election in DC. It has happened in a few local municipalities. But it is vanishingly rare, and recent nationwide.


This is not false at all. What YOU claim is false, PP. why are you lying?? (MAGA maybe?).


PP here.

Can you point me to something showing that anyone under the age 0f 18 has ever voted in DC?
No state and less than 25 cities confined to three states allow voting under the age of 18.

Listen, I am on the fence about lowering the voting age in local elections. I'm not arguing for or against it.
I am disputing the inaccurate statement that "the voting age in local elections has long been 16." This is not true, at least in general elections.


Still waiting on an answer to the bolded.

And I think we should be clear that NOWHERE has anyone under the age of 18 voted in federal elections.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 15:14     Subject: Re:Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about changing the age limit, but if people were required to pass a basic, and I mean BASIC intelligence/education/information test, the world would be a much, much better place. Too many imbeciles are allowed to decide the fate of all of us, esp. in the dumb states that get the same amount of representatives as the states that produce the revenue for this country.

I wouldn’t deny anyone the right to vote but I think there should be weighing of votes. A person with a high school or equivalent education, trade school, or a two year associate degree vote is weighted as 1. A person with simply a bachelors degree has their vote weighted as a 1.5. A person with a masters degree receives the equivalent of 2 votes. Those with a doctorate level education cap out at a 2.5.
In this fashion people with demonstrated intelligence are rightly rewarded in determining the government and the trajectory of society.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 13:16     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:But we've been told repeatedly brains aren't fully developed until something like 25 years old, yet we are going to be lowering the voting age from 18?


This. There is a general shortage of sensible voters among all age groups, but teens don't yet have any idea which end they're wiping.

Voting age should be 25-80. If we limited the vote to people who have mature reasoning skills but haven't yet lost their critical faculties, we would return to more sensible, moderate politics without the extremes plaguing us on both sides.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 08:07     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:OK, you can vote as young as 14 but you only get to vote for 50 years. If you start at 14, you are disenfranchised at 64. If you wait until 21, you can vote until you're 71. Also, nobody over 75 gets to vote. Or hold public office.

The older folks bother me more than the young ones.


If an 80+ year old can hold public office, they can vote.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 07:20     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
If you're legally able to work and pay taxes, then you should be legally able to vote.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2023 07:04     Subject: Re:Why not lower the voting age to 14?
80 Is a more reasonable stopping age. 20 to 80.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 13:25     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
OK, you can vote as young as 14 but you only get to vote for 50 years. If you start at 14, you are disenfranchised at 64. If you wait until 21, you can vote until you're 71. Also, nobody over 75 gets to vote. Or hold public office.

The older folks bother me more than the young ones.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 13:16     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:Great, let’s allow Russian and Chinese foreign nationals to vote too while we’re at it. And cats and dogs


They can in DC, if they have been here longer than 30 days.
Democrats hate foreign interference with US government, unless it benefits them.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 13:15     Subject: Re:Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about changing the age limit, but if people were required to pass a basic, and I mean BASIC intelligence/education/information test, the world would be a much, much better place. Too many imbeciles are allowed to decide the fate of all of us, esp. in the dumb states that get the same amount of representatives as the states that produce the revenue for this country.


Considering the demographics of high school dropouts and graduation rates, this may not turn out how you are imagining.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 12:54     Subject: Re:Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp, the voting age should begin with 26 and cap out at 77. Foreign nationals should NOT vote because that allows countries to send people here and destroy the country from within.

In the same vein, those who cannot vote should not have to pay taxes. So, in their early years and retirement years, they get to save money.


If they aren't going to pay public taxes, they don't need to use public services, like roads or healthcare. I fully support this plan.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 09:20     Subject: Re:Why not lower the voting age to 14?
I agree with pp, the voting age should begin with 26 and cap out at 77. Foreign nationals should NOT vote because that allows countries to send people here and destroy the country from within.

In the same vein, those who cannot vote should not have to pay taxes. So, in their early years and retirement years, they get to save money.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 09:15     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:18 is fine. I'm also okay with 16-year-olds voting in local municipal elections only since they are directly affected by decisions about schools, so there's that. But that's all.

There are some people on the right who want to raise the age to 25 or even 30, arguing something about prefrontal cortex development and having skin in the game as far as contributing to society. By their logic, we should also cap the voting age at 75, so people losing their mental faculties due to advanced age shouldn't vote either. But right wingers don't argue that for some reason.

I say leave it as it is, but since minors under 18 can't vote, they shouldn't have to pay income taxes. Let them keep their summer gig earnings for chrissakes.


+100
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 05:08     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great, let’s allow Russian and Chinese foreign nationals to vote too while we’re at it. And cats and dogs


NYC is working on it. The foreign nationals part though, not cats and dogs.


Clearly discriminatory. Cats and dogs over 14 should be able to vote to. Their lives are impacted by us.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 04:13     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
Anonymous wrote:Great, let’s allow Russian and Chinese foreign nationals to vote too while we’re at it. And cats and dogs


NYC is working on it. The foreign nationals part though, not cats and dogs.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2023 04:11     Subject: Why not lower the voting age to 14?
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Anonymous wrote:With the republican supreme court ending Roe, and many other issues, teens are increasingly effected by the consequences of elections.

And todays teens are much better informed.

Shouldn’t they have some say in their own lives?


*chortle*

You’re joking, right? Just because you can use Google doesn’t make you better informed.


I am relatively sure most teens get their information from TikTok.