Anonymous wrote:In general I think there will be a push to schools perceived as fun but with good educational rigor. The northeast schools will drop because they are perceived as grim grinds filled with backstabbing, unfriendly people. Political moderation will be appealing. I think this generation of kids, who suffered through covid, has little patience for schools where, fair or not, there is a perception of tolerance of drama queens and waste of education. This will also go with an increasing demand for good ROI.

Excessive drama, misery, and petulance is headed out, solid education, fun, and good ROI is in.

So kids weren't interested in schools that were fun before recently? And plenty of drama and backstabbing in the Southern sorority scene.

Going to take contrarian view: with AI developments I think colleges that attract the future Steve Jobs’ - like a Reed or a St John's, Annapolis will become highly coveted.

Remember, no more coding jobs…the computers will code themselves but how technology and tech integrate into our lives - the way Jobs chose glass over plastic from his class on calligraphy at Reed - will be highly valuable skills: liberal arts for the win.

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Anonymous wrote:If Florida and Georgia can get to UVA level, I'm not sure how much more room in the south.

For flagship publics, you need a huge buy in from the brightest in-state students to stay home. And there has to be a sufficient quantity of high achieving students. NOVA probably has more of those students than Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi combined.

How do you know this?

Over 5,000 Virginians score between 1400 and 1600 on the SAT.

In Alabama, fewer than 500. In Arkansas, fewer than 250. Same for Mississippi.

Keep in mind, this is a score achieved in one sitting. So all these states, including Virginia, will have more students achieving a 1400-1600 using the composite score.

All of the tiny schools with poor to mediocre Moody ratings will probably close in the next 10 years.

Schools catering to growing immigrant populations such as Central America will grow.

Agree that state flagships will continue to become popular.

I see nobody has mentioned the "demographic cliff" that begins in 2 years. It will be interesting to see how a shrinking population in U.S. and abroad will impact university program and pricing decisions. I wonder if flagships will need to expand their "consortiums" with other states for in-state tuition as their populations decline?

Also not mentioned is the growing trend for U.S. kids to go to the U.K. or other countries for favorable tuition rates. As more of these countries wise up and expand their English speaking offerings, U.S. colleges will need to factor in yet another competitor when trying to hit the merit aid sweet spot. $40k to $50k COA won't cut it when Europe can be half the price even with travel. And Canadian universities although they have an international premium fee are attractive when there is 25% xr rate discount.

Anonymous wrote:If Florida and Georgia can get to UVA level, I'm not sure how much more room in the south.

For flagship publics, you need a huge buy in from the brightest in-state students to stay home. And there has to be a sufficient quantity of high achieving students. NOVA probably has more of those students than Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi combined.

UGA is moving to 80% in state and they are attracting top in state students because of the money the state gives them to stay in Georgia.

Anonymous wrote:If Florida and Georgia can get to UVA level, I'm not sure how much more room in the south.

For flagship publics, you need a huge buy in from the brightest in-state students to stay home. And there has to be a sufficient quantity of high achieving students. NOVA probably has more of those students than Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi combined.

How do you know this?

If Florida and Georgia can get to UVA level, I'm not sure how much more room in the south.

For flagship publics, you need a huge buy in from the brightest in-state students to stay home. And there has to be a sufficient quantity of high achieving students. NOVA probably has more of those students than Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi combined.

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Anonymous wrote:SEC schools. They are fun and alumni connections to jobs are solid.

+1 The interest in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina is astronomical.

Of course, otherwise what?

Test optional schools will go down. Too much BS and just a race to the bottom. Also agree schools in the South and West up — already happening.

+ state flagships

Disagree re: AU.

Anonymous wrote:SEC schools. They are fun and alumni connections to jobs are solid.

+1 The interest in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina is astronomical.

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sorry I must ask what is the UC system? University of California??

Yes. CA has a large great public college system.

UC and CSU (Calif State Univ). There are over 30 of them.

Anonymous wrote:Roll Tide

I know know two kids in med school who went there at a discounted rate. Both look pretty happy now. Roll Tide!

Anonymous wrote:In general I think there will be a push to schools perceived as fun but with good educational rigor. The northeast schools will drop because they are perceived as grim grinds filled with backstabbing, unfriendly people. Political moderation will be appealing. I think this generation of kids, who suffered through covid, has little patience for schools where, fair or not, there is a perception of tolerance of drama queens and waste of education. This will also go with an increasing demand for good ROI.

Excessive drama, misery, and petulance is headed out, solid education, fun, and good ROI is in.

Crossing fingers you are correct!!