Forced intimacy is yucky and if the person who it is being forced upon doesn't like it (like if Oprah were to pull her hand away), the initiator will act totally offended and will give them the opportunity to blame the victim and cause stress and havoc (OMG I feel so rejected by Oprah! She hates me!). Narcissists like Drew love doing this.

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There's no eyeroll big enough to direct at the gossips here.

As with PP's post, the mean neighborhood moms with speculation and stories about the nice mom (who makes them look bad), that are not close to true. Keep talking ladies, how is that working for you.

Lol it is not "gossip" to discuss the behavior of two famous people on a talk show hosted by one of them. Gossip would be like if someone here claimed they saw Drew manhandling Oprah in an elevator at a hotel they were staying at. This happened on national television (or however Drew's show is hosted, I don't even know if it's on broadcast or streamed or what). There is zero speculation. This is what Drew did, people are discussing whether they think it's appropriate or not.

I will never understand the people on this website who freak out whenever celebrities are discussed or criticized. So weird.

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There's no eyeroll big enough to direct at the gossips here.

As with PP's post, the mean neighborhood moms with speculation and stories about the nice mom (who makes them look bad), that are not close to true. Keep talking ladies, how is that working for you.

Anonymous wrote:Why would Oprah complain? She looks completely confident in that photo. It looks like Drew idolizes her. I don’t get the Dr. Phil comment because it’s personality. Oprah is a big touched too. I can’t imagine she wouldn’t be able to hold her own by patting Drew’s hand and pulling it away. Of course if she says anything, then Drew should apologize.

Remember when Reese and Ellen had a competition about who was better friends with Oprah? I think people are really drawn to her, but I also think Oprah must enjoy the idolation.

Of course she does

I also feel this entire discussion is a bit damned if you do, and pitting two women against each other unnecessarily. Why does Oprah need the world policing behavior for her?

Why would Oprah complain? She looks completely confident in that photo. It looks like Drew idolizes her. I don’t get the Dr. Phil comment because it’s personality. Oprah is a big touched too. I can’t imagine she wouldn’t be able to hold her own by patting Drew’s hand and pulling it away. Of course if she says anything, then Drew should apologize.

Remember when Reese and Ellen had a competition about who was better friends with Oprah? I think people are really drawn to her, but I also think Oprah must enjoy the idolation.

Like PP said, my first thought when I read your headline is, "Drew is weird like that". She's like a big blob of over emotional love. It's an odd combow with Winfrey who doesn't seem to be a physically demonstrative person.

If Oprah complains, Drew should apologize. And maybe learn a lesson about consent.

Anonymous wrote:I watched it (home sick, had never watched her show before). I thought it was strange but not invasive when I watched. I also think of Oprah as very able to handle herself in any situation and she would have moved if she wasn’t comfortable.

The conversation at this time, I think, was on an interview Oprah did with Drew when she was like 14. She named a dozen things off the top of her head that were wrong with her appearance. Oprah was supportive to her at that time and she was sharing how much it meant to her. I mean, most of the interview was about her and not Oprah, but that’s another issue.

I still thought it was a bit strange and I would feel like she was talking too close to me, but I feel like that’s Drew’s schtick. She wants us to think she acts like she does when she has friends over for wine.

Sidebar, I also watched Kelly Clarkson for the first time ever yesterday and did not mind her at all!

Interesting that you noticed it while watching it before reading this.

I watched it (home sick, had never watched her show before). I thought it was strange but not invasive when I watched. I also think of Oprah as very able to handle herself in any situation and she would have moved if she wasn’t comfortable.

The conversation at this time, I think, was on an interview Oprah did with Drew when she was like 14. She named a dozen things off the top of her head that were wrong with her appearance. Oprah was supportive to her at that time and she was sharing how much it meant to her. I mean, most of the interview was about her and not Oprah, but that’s another issue.

I still thought it was a bit strange and I would feel like she was talking too close to me, but I feel like that’s Drew’s schtick. She wants us to think she acts like she does when she has friends over for wine.

Sidebar, I also watched Kelly Clarkson for the first time ever yesterday and did not mind her at all!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe what is so cringe about it has more to do with race than with Drew holding Oprah's hand. Oprah is put in a position that makes it looks somewhat like a caricature that women of color had to break free from for decades, that of a nurturer "nanny" type person to a white child.

I didn't read the NY Post article. That's the inappropriateness of the hand-holding.

However, I have seen Drew with other guests. I don't find her to be forcing her guests into intimacy. She conducted a great interview with Brooke Shields about her documentary on what she experienced growing up in Hollywood.

I think race makes it worse but also I think this behavior is bad bo matter what.

I'm white and if another white person did this to me, make or female, I'd feel uncomfortable and maybe even violated depending on how far they took it.

Did she caress Brooke Shields? Was she touching Brooke Shields? Forcing physical intimacy?(I didn’t see their interview.)

Anonymous wrote:Maybe what is so cringe about it has more to do with race than with Drew holding Oprah's hand. Oprah is put in a position that makes it looks somewhat like a caricature that women of color had to break free from for decades, that of a nurturer "nanny" type person to a white child.

I didn't read the NY Post article. That's the inappropriateness of the hand-holding.

However, I have seen Drew with other guests. I don't find her to be forcing her guests into intimacy. She conducted a great interview with Brooke Shields about her documentary on what she experienced growing up in Hollywood.

Oh stop with the race baiting. Oprah is one of the wealthiest, most powerful women in the world.

Anonymous wrote:To people saying well she had a traumatic childhood -- many, many people who violate other people's boundaries and are physically inappropriate (or assault people) had traumatic childhoods. It is not an excuse.

+1 I'm one of the pp's who explained that it was likely due to her traumatic childhood. To be clear, it's not an excuse. Just an explanation. Drew is crossing a boundary and that's not ok.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe what is so cringe about it has more to do with race than with Drew holding Oprah's hand. Oprah is put in a position that makes it looks somewhat like a caricature that women of color had to break free from for decades, that of a nurturer "nanny" type person to a white child.

I didn't read the NY Post article. That's the inappropriateness of the hand-holding.

However, I have seen Drew with other guests. I don't find her to be forcing her guests into intimacy. She conducted a great interview with Brooke Shields about her documentary on what she experienced growing up in Hollywood.

I think race makes it worse but also I think this behavior is bad bo matter what.

I'm white and if another white person did this to me, make or female, I'd feel uncomfortable and maybe even violated depending on how far they took it.

Maybe what is so cringe about it has more to do with race than with Drew holding Oprah's hand. Oprah is put in a position that makes it looks somewhat like a caricature that women of color had to break free from for decades, that of a nurturer "nanny" type person to a white child.

I didn't read the NY Post article. That's the inappropriateness of the hand-holding.

However, I have seen Drew with other guests. I don't find her to be forcing her guests into intimacy. She conducted a great interview with Brooke Shields about her documentary on what she experienced growing up in Hollywood.

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The body language here is pretty amazing.

Also Oprah looks amazing.

Yes! Love the purple and she looks amazing but she is a shero of mine no matter what her weight is.

Drew Barrymore reminds me of those white ladies who are too emotional causing me to become avoidant of them and pull back and then they say something offensive and racist about me.

White person here and you’re so right. She reminds me of the moms at school pickup who I accidentally make small talk with before I realize that everyone else always knows they’re psycho and has avoided them for years. And then I’m stuck being their unwilling confidante for the rest of the year and enrolling my child in aftercare just so you never see them again.

Hypothetically…