Anonymous wrote:DS played lacrosse at an Ivy and graduated with a 2.7 GPA, yes shocking, but he got a high paying IB job because one of his best friends father is a big honcho at the company. GPA is overrated.

You post about this all the time it’s almost a DCUM meme!

Anonymous wrote:It happens all the time. People get so wrapped up in college admissions- sending their kids to subpar public high schools because it will be easier to stand out and get in to HYP than from a competitive private, but once they get there, they can’t keep up. Or maybe they didn’t have a choice about where they went to high school and were the smartest person at a bad school and got in that way. Their job prospects are no better than if they gone to a crap school. Just getting into an Ivy does not guarantee your future. You still have to do well.

This was me. My parents were from small rural communities, but did go to college there (at like rank 200 schools), and I was the l local golden student, who even did well in standardized tests.

My goal in LIFE was to get into an Ivy and get out of my small town. Once I got there I was ill prepared and floundered and graduated with C average in a science major. In retrospect I should have chosen an easier major rather than being wrapped up in adolescent career visualizations.

Anyways, I worked as a Fed contractor using my technical skills fine but likely would have better career and happier if I had just gone to my local public flagship. But I did meet my high earning and amazing spouse because I went to an Ivy, so there’s that.

Anonymous wrote:It happens all the time. People get so wrapped up in college admissions- sending their kids to subpar public high schools because it will be easier to stand out and get in to HYP than from a competitive private, but once they get there, they can’t keep up. Or maybe they didn’t have a choice about where they went to high school and were the smartest person at a bad school and got in that way. Their job prospects are no better than if they gone to a crap school. Just getting into an Ivy does not guarantee your future. You still have to do well.

nah - the top 10% at any public can do well anywhere friendo - sorry about the grade deflation at ur DCUM private though, hope it didn’t hurt junior’s shot at UCLA

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Anonymous wrote:They go to crappy law schools.

not IMHE as a Harvard grad. the law schools may not be T6 but they are still very good. Remember thos Harvard kids are (historically) also great test takers so their LSATs are high. Resumes are very strong. ECs are strong

You don't know what you're talking about. It's impossible for all the pre-law Ivy kids to end up at T6 or T14 law schools. Most end up at good not great law schools. A slacker who graduated with a 2.5 GPA at Penn Arts and Sciences is never sniffing a T14.

The bottom of the Ivies are weaker than they've ever been. Under a 3.0 GPA is a massive red flag. Why would an employer want a bottom of the class Ivy grad over a top state school student?

Anonymous wrote:DS played lacrosse at an Ivy and graduated with a 2.7 GPA, yes shocking, but he got a high paying IB job because one of his best friends father is a big honcho at the company. GPA is overrated.

The laxers are mostly WASPs and take care of each other well (probably the best of the athlete groups).
I was surprised how a non-white Harvard laxer I know well has struggled but that is also telling when it comes to the core lax crowd...

Anonymous wrote:I graduated from Dartmouth 20 years ago with less than a 3.0. No one has ever asked me for my GPA, literally zero questions in 20 years and when people see my school on my resume or it comes up in conversation they just say wow. I'm now an executive and I do a lot with the Dartmouth alum group in DC, that name gets you in a lot of doors.

The best tech firms and financial institutions care and require transcripts now. 5 years out, no one cares!

Anonymous wrote:Malcolm Gladwell studied this. The bottom group doesn't fare better than someone who went to a non-Ivy school.

Here's the kicker, he says.

The top group at Harvard and the top group at, say, Haverford will all do well because they strive and do well in their work.

The top group at Haverford probably would have been admitted to an Ivy if they wanted to (as a freshman or at least as a transfer).

The legitimate issue now is that you can't tell who the top and bottom at Harvard and Yale are anymore. The average kids are getting 3.8s. I couldn't believe the recent articles on the grade inflation that has persisted post pandemic.

I graduated from Dartmouth 20 years ago with less than a 3.0. No one has ever asked me for my GPA, literally zero questions in 20 years and when people see my school on my resume or it comes up in conversation they just say wow. I'm now an executive and I do a lot with the Dartmouth alum group in DC, that name gets you in a lot of doors.

Anonymous wrote:They go to crappy law schools.

not IMHE as a Harvard grad. the law schools may not be T6 but they are still very good. Remember thos Harvard kids are (historically) also great test takers so their LSATs are high. Resumes are very strong. ECs are strong

They go to crappy law schools.

DS played lacrosse at an Ivy and graduated with a 2.7 GPA, yes shocking, but he got a high paying IB job because one of his best friends father is a big honcho at the company. GPA is overrated.

Become an entrepreneur and make more than your peers. Or move to the Midwest and run for politic office.

Yes, a kid down the street. Nice family. They have a pet unicorn.

I can't believe how inflated the grades are now versus the mid 2000s. The post pandemic GPAs are just crazy!