Anonymous
12/04/2023 19:01
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
USN&WR
Drives the college ranking narrative.
For bumpkins and newbies, yes.
USN&WR rankings (T10, T20, T25, etc.) are pretty much what DCUMers post about, directly or indirectly.
If you don't realize this you must be a newbie.
True T10 has become part of our lexicon
Anonymous
12/04/2023 18:51
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
USN&WR
Drives the college ranking narrative.
For bumpkins and newbies, yes.
USN&WR rankings (T10, T20, T25, etc.) are pretty much what DCUMers post about, directly or indirectly.
If you don't realize this you must be a newbie.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 18:45
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 - Your Mom
Tier 2 - NO1CRR
Tier 3 - Yale
Tier 4 - Stahp
Tier 1 - the school that loved your kid.
The one your kid chose to attend.
Tier 2 - all other schools that loved your kid.
Tier 3- ivy pluses
Tier 3 - ivy minuses
Anonymous
12/04/2023 18:42
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
OP, before you waste everyone's time with these kinds of posts, please google. Ivy Scholars is the only operative who uses five tiers, already. https://www.ivyscholars.com/2021/02/12/which-college-is-right-for-you/. throwing out your own tiers is useless to readers here.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 18:03
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Your tiers are too narrow.
if you are even going to do this, then what you have as 1, 2 and some of 3 would be tier 1. And it goes from there.
But then the lower ivies can ride the coattails of Harvard and Princeton
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:50
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Your tiers are too narrow.
if you are even going to do this, then what you have as 1, 2 and some of 3 would be tier 1. And it goes from there.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:43
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:This is hysterical:
If you ask someone immersed in the college frenzy where they will be going to college, they will try to explain it in some vague terms in order to not self-dox.
But here is the guide for deciphering what these mean:
Harvard - Harvard
HYP - Yale or Princeton
#1 on USNews - Princeton
Ivy - Cornell/Brown/Dartmouth/UPenn/ Columbia
Wharton - UPenn Wharton (they have to mention that they are in Wharton)
Stanford - the Farm
"Harvard of the South" - Duke or Vanderbilt
T4 CS School - CMU or Berkeley
T5 CS School - UIUC, GaTech, UWash
#1 Public School - Berkeley or UCLA
MIT - MIT
"MIT of the West" - CalTech
T10 School - Northwestern, UChicago, Johns Hopkins
T20 School - WashU, Rice, Vanderbilt or Notre Dame
T10 Engineering School - Purdue
T10 Undergrad Business School - IU Kelley
WASP / Top LAC - Williams Amherst
Swarthmore Pomona
"Hidden Ivy" = Literally any LAC
"Public Ivy" - UVA UNC UMich or UT
T20 - Any of the T20s not already mentioned
And for LACs:
Amherst- a small harvard
Swarthmore- a small princeton
Williams- a small yale
Colby, bowdoin- like Dartmouth but without frats!
Carleton, grinell, oberlin, Kenyon- small Brown
"Ivy is Ivy. We don't worry about rankings" - Cornell or Columbia
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:42
Subject: College tiers?
Tier 1 - Your Mom
Tier 2 - NO1CRR
Tier 3 - Yale
Tier 4 - Stahp
Tier 2 - NO1CRR
Tier 3 - Yale
Tier 4 - Stahp
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:36
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Immigrant parents are driving this
I guess US News ranking is published by immigrants.
Given the value you place in rankings it is not surprising you are overly literal about a name too. This is not the opinion of the whole US of A; it is the opinion of an editor at a magazine with US in its name.
I don't give a $hit about the rankings. Many people do, and not just the recent immigrants.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:35
Subject: College tiers?
They dropped a W from WWASP?!?!?!
Anonymous
12/04/2023 17:32
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Immigrant parents are driving this
I guess US News ranking is published by immigrants.
Given the value you place in rankings it is not surprising you are overly literal about a name too. This is not the opinion of the whole US of A; it is the opinion of an editor at a magazine with US in its name.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 16:40
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Immigrant parents are driving this
It’s more the rich white folks than anyone else, see who the major “donors” are to top universities and then see where their kids enroll.
See who the varsity blues convicted felons are.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 16:31
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Except there’s a disconnect with reality. Most millionaires are small business owners. It does not take a degree from brown to open a chain of chipotle’s. It’s a fools errand.
pax americana... undergirded by Chipotle soft tacos
Anonymous
12/04/2023 16:28
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Except there’s a disconnect with reality. Most millionaires are small business owners. It does not take a degree from brown to open a chain of chipotle’s. It’s a fools errand.
Anonymous
12/04/2023 16:28
Subject: College tiers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.
Welcome to the U.S.A.
Immigrant parents are driving this
+1
It has to be, no U.S. parents are this ignorant about the U.S. system.