Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 18:49     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

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Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Yes, it does. But nobody will stop you from advocating for cutting funding to improve schools, if that's what you want to do.



Baltimore gets some of the most money per student.

How about those results?


Do you think Baltimore public schools would be better if they received less funding?


Yup. It'd cut central office pork.


The central office controls their own funding. They would cut every paraeducator and nurse in the county before touching their 6 figure grift positions.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 18:30     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Baltimore's school problems have to do with a largely dysfunctional student body stemming from a largely dysfunctional population. Pouring billions into the schools over the years have done little to change the outcomes. Pouring even more money into the schools won't change anything. The current model of building new babysitting centers masquerading as schools to replace older schools, which is what the school district has been doing, is about the best you'll ever achieve.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 10:12     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Just googling a bit, Singapore seemed tobe spending about 16-18% of GDP on education over the past number of years. That has a downward trend, but maybe that"s because of increasing GDP or lower student-age population, rather than cuts on a per-student basis.

What's the % for the US? Does it adjust well for student-age population so that per-student spending on a PPP basis is roughly equivalent to Singapore, Japan and Sweeden? (China's not a good comparison for a host of reasons.)

Do those countries maintain large high school sports program budgets within their education spending? Do they bear similar cost to the US when it comes to socioeconomic & cutural differentiation of their populations? What socioeconomic level in society is enjoyed by those there in the teaching profession? How does that compare, here?

There's plenty that could make education more efficient, just as with any large enterprise. There's plenty that super-progressives end up mandating that is not even well-suited to societal goals when considering likely effect, much less efficient. I'm not sure arguing that effective education in the US would come from top-line cuts makes any sense, though, when comparing apples to apples with other countries.

Come back to us about B'more getting high funding with lower output when they aren't dealing with great impediment on the input side...
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 15:07     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is the richest state in the country and a small area. Government is bloated and needs to be cut. Maryland roads are better than all surrounding jurisdictions and always have been. Cuts should come to the schools that have had dropping enrollments since covid. Public schools everywhere in the country are miserable failures and need drastic cuts and complete organizational change. Get rid of the massive buildings and ridiculous real estate holdings and move into a corrugated warehouse with desks , centralized video teachers and only staff being armed security and monitors on test days.


No, Maryland is not the richest state in the country. It's the state with the first or second highest median household income, and that's because a relatively small number of uber wealthy people in inner MoCo skew the state's statistics and mask the its majority middle income and upper middle income households, as well as its low-income households and poverty spread across urban centers, rural areas, and select suburban counties.

Maybe Maryland had better roads a generation ago, but the state's transportation infrastructure has deteriorated from a lack of vision and investment. Today's VA's roads are clearly superior and our neighbor across the river is investing in capacity and design improvements at a scale far higher that what we're doing. Heck, VA is pouring billions into rail and port infrastructure and pulling away from MD.

- signed, a MD resident

Your post is so ignorant, it's not even worth a response. But what roads in VA are clearly superior?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 14:35     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is the richest state in the country and a small area. Government is bloated and needs to be cut. Maryland roads are better than all surrounding jurisdictions and always have been. Cuts should come to the schools that have had dropping enrollments since covid. Public schools everywhere in the country are miserable failures and need drastic cuts and complete organizational change. Get rid of the massive buildings and ridiculous real estate holdings and move into a corrugated warehouse with desks , centralized video teachers and only staff being armed security and monitors on test days.


No, Maryland is not the richest state in the country. It's the state with the first or second highest median household income, and that's because a relatively small number of uber wealthy people in inner MoCo skew the state's statistics and mask the its majority middle income and upper middle income households, as well as its low-income households and poverty spread across urban centers, rural areas, and select suburban counties.

Maybe Maryland had better roads a generation ago, but the state's transportation infrastructure has deteriorated from a lack of vision and investment. Today's VA's roads are clearly superior and our neighbor across the river is investing in capacity and design improvements at a scale far higher that what we're doing. Heck, VA is pouring billions into rail and port infrastructure and pulling away from MD.

- signed, a MD resident


I think you're confused about the difference between "median" and "mean".
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 14:24     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:Maryland is the richest state in the country and a small area. Government is bloated and needs to be cut. Maryland roads are better than all surrounding jurisdictions and always have been. Cuts should come to the schools that have had dropping enrollments since covid. Public schools everywhere in the country are miserable failures and need drastic cuts and complete organizational change. Get rid of the massive buildings and ridiculous real estate holdings and move into a corrugated warehouse with desks , centralized video teachers and only staff being armed security and monitors on test days.


No, Maryland is not the richest state in the country. It's the state with the first or second highest median household income, and that's because a relatively small number of uber wealthy people in inner MoCo skew the state's statistics and mask the its majority middle income and upper middle income households, as well as its low-income households and poverty spread across urban centers, rural areas, and select suburban counties.

Maybe Maryland had better roads a generation ago, but the state's transportation infrastructure has deteriorated from a lack of vision and investment. Today's VA's roads are clearly superior and our neighbor across the river is investing in capacity and design improvements at a scale far higher that what we're doing. Heck, VA is pouring billions into rail and port infrastructure and pulling away from MD.

- signed, a MD resident
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 06:51     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Yes, it does. But nobody will stop you from advocating for cutting funding to improve schools, if that's what you want to do.



Baltimore gets some of the most money per student.

How about those results?


Do you think Baltimore public schools would be better if they received less funding?


NP this isn’t about receiving less funding, it’s about not receiving more funding. And honestly, Baltimore public schools are pretty awful and unsuccessful. And no more money doesn’t always equal more success at schools. I’ve worked at schools that are more successful with a smaller budget than what Baltimore allocates. And yes it was a high poverty school.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 05:57     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Maryland is the richest state in the country and a small area. Government is bloated and needs to be cut. Maryland roads are better than all surrounding jurisdictions and always have been. Cuts should come to the schools that have had dropping enrollments since covid. Public schools everywhere in the country are miserable failures and need drastic cuts and complete organizational change. Get rid of the massive buildings and ridiculous real estate holdings and move into a corrugated warehouse with desks , centralized video teachers and only staff being armed security and monitors on test days.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 05:29     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

None of this surprises me. Maryland is an overtaxed and over-regulated state with a history of fiscal mismanagement.

For years Maryland has played second fiddle to Virginia, which offers a far better business environment, updated infrastructure, and lower tax burdens. The state cannot compete regionally (let alone nationally) and falls back to screaming, pleading, and cajoling Washington for federal jobs because it's incapable of creating a business climate that supports private investment. Look no further than the new FBI headquarters.

If Marylanders devoted as much energy to their state economy as they do to their state flag perhaps things would be better.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 13:50     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Yes, it does. But nobody will stop you from advocating for cutting funding to improve schools, if that's what you want to do.



Baltimore gets some of the most money per student.

How about those results?


Do you think Baltimore public schools would be better if they received less funding?


I think that before they get more money — and we’re talking about increases, not cuts — they need to demonstrate that they can absorb the money in a transparent, accountable way.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 13:38     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Yes, it does. But nobody will stop you from advocating for cutting funding to improve schools, if that's what you want to do.



Baltimore gets some of the most money per student.

How about those results?


Do you think Baltimore public schools would be better if they received less funding?


Do you think the results would be measurably worse?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 11:11     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?


Who needs schools?



Oh please, as if good education = $$$$.


Why can students in Sweden, Japan, China, and Singapore mop the floor with American students while they spend many fold less per student?


The state mandated a whole bunch of unfunded progressive mumbo jumbo for education that is costing billions of dollars which means it will need to cut elsewhere since progressive initiatives have hit the wall of reality in that there are only a limited number of dollars available.

How many billions of dollars have been dumped into schools in Baltimore yet performance remains abysmal?


Yes, it does. But nobody will stop you from advocating for cutting funding to improve schools, if that's what you want to do.



Baltimore gets some of the most money per student.

How about those results?


Do you think Baltimore public schools would be better if they received less funding?


Yup. It'd cut central office pork.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 11:10     Subject: Maryland's budget cuts

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo article describes education costing $4B for equity and leaving no child left behind.

Unmitigated progressive disaster. But at least they feel good about themselves for the progress. They never have to figure out how to pay for anything as long as it is someone else's money and they can raise taxes. Who needs roads and infrastructure?
This is by design. Progressives hate roads.


It's harder to control a mobile population.